Dating, 1950s – for the man.
Ask your partner’s parent for permission to take their daughter on a date. She may or may not be chaperoned – a double date may be a respectable compromise. Sex is out of the question. She must be at home for eleven o’clock pm. You will be expected to pay for any entertainment or food and drink. A return date may be requested on another occasion.
You will not be exclusive to each other until you agree this together and announce your engagement.
Dating, 2000s – for the woman.
Meet in a bar. Get drunk. Have sex. From there you may each decide which level of commitment you are available for. This can be anything from ‘friends-with-benefits’ to ‘seeing-how-it-goes’..
~o0o~
Now, ladies, which scenario do you prefer? Which is more likely to guarantee you respect and happiness?
Feminism purports to concern itself only with equality – but in reality propagates mistrust, tension and hatred between the sexes.
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January 2, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Khankrumthebulgar
I met my first wife at a Church Dance. And called her Father to ask permission to “Court” his Daughter. My ex Father in Law and I are like Father and Son. Still over 10 years since my Divorce by his Daughter. He threatened to disown her when she Left me for another Man.
We get on okay. Time has passed and we have both moved on. What I cannot get back. Is the years lost with my Children. And watching them grow up. I can never recover those years. So who initiated the Divorce? She did. Despite my request that we try counseling before calling it quits.
Romance has been killed by Feminism. Men’s respect for Women also is eroding or gone due to Female misbehavior. It cannot be quickly or easily repaired either.
To add insult to injury. Feminists and their Male Enablers want to prevent Men from exercising their Romantic options. Two things. Women should be reasonable and realistic. This lies at the heart of our problem. They are neither one. Entitlement mentality has replaced reason, Oprah and the Spin Sisters promote unrealistic expectations. Welcome to 2008.
How bad is it? The Houston Chronicle today has an article on Sex with Robots. Will that also be made illegal by Feminists? Stay tuned.
January 2, 2008 at 8:32 pm
dmz001
Modern day female behavior is more a result of biology than feminism, which simply let women be their true, disgusting selves.
Due to biology, most women would choose the second scenario, as that man comes across as more “alpha” in the eyes of women.
Most women would prefer to degraded by an alpha than worshipped and loved by a beta.
Most men are beta males and just don’t understand this disturbing truth about women.
Alphas have always understood that most (if not all) women are whores and treat them accordingly.
January 3, 2008 at 4:09 am
Bob
The highest rate of “teenage pregnancy” ever recorded in the US since they started collecting data was in 1957. In that year almost all of the pregnant teenage mothers were happily married. Before feminism destroyed marriage and made it a crime for young women to marry elligible men, most young women got married and got on with their lives during their biological baby making years.
Feminsm made marriage to ellibible men a crime for young women and men. Feminism took the “marriage” out of “waiting till marriage.” Now young women (and men) eventually get tired of just “waiting” and get on with sex. We now have half of our children being born as bastards and the percent is getting worse every year. Young women by the millions are deciding to get on with making their babies as nature intended even if the society (feminism) denies them permission and ability to marry.
Of course every healthy human needs sex on a fairly regular basis. But when we deny marriage people are not going to forget sex. When we prevent them from marriage, young women will still make babies.
The laws on marriage and “statutory rape” must be returned to allow and encourage young women to meet and marry elligible bachelor men. Paretns need to stop preventing their daughters marriages, and return to helping daughters to have a full, rich, wonderful life as a wife and mother.
January 3, 2008 at 4:33 am
Renegade Evolution
Eh, I’ll take option number two- minus the drunk part- thanks. But then again, that’s just me…
(here via Feminist Critics, btw)
January 3, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Exposing Feminism
Renegade Evolution,
A question if I may. If you prefer the current ‘dating rules’ in comparison to the more traditional way of courting, do you see this as typical in your age group? Which age group is this?
January 3, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Renegade Evolution
Well, actually, at this point, I am married…and a Really Not Typical Case Study, but…
I’m in my thirties. Most women my age- scantly older or scantly younger (say late twenties to early 40s) that I know socially- who have regular jobs and lives as it were- are now married, most of them with children, to men they met in college or shortly there after. They may have had a “sewing of oats” period at some point, late teens or early twenties, I can think of only one who was a virgin when she got married, but most of them might have had a flings, but they eventually (meaning in their early to late twenties) ended up married, often to men they had been dating / living with and having sex with for an extended time. Thus, I think that is the typical mode for people my age. I personally prefer the “current rules”, but I am in no way typical of most women, period. I do however think that anyone engaging in the one night stand theory of dating should and has an obligation to see that they use protection while “engaging”. The more the better.
January 3, 2008 at 3:30 pm
bachelor tom
@dmz001: I think you’re half-right. Females are attracted to alpha males for sex but beta males for child-raising (boring but dependable).
Female harems are the norm in the animal kingdom; this is one of the basic divergences humans made, along with the development of the fatherhood role (human infants require more nurture).
Hardcore feminists seem to desire a return to pre-human society, or at least pre-civilized.
January 3, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Exposing Feminism
‘Hardcore feminists seem to desire a return to pre-human society, or at least pre-civilized.’
In fact, feminists seem to desire a ‘return’ to a matriarchal society that never even existed;-
http://www.debunker.com/texts/goddess_rem.html
January 3, 2008 at 8:34 pm
khankrumthebulgar
What is very interesting is to see how Jessica Valenti and the Femifascists are attacking the Real Dolls issue. When “Sex In The City” or Skanks Without Morals endorse the Rabbit a Vibrator for Women. The truth is that Men are being forced to adapt to ways to prevent them from being financially ruined by Women. I believe the growth in Internet Porn, Realistic Sex Dolls, Marriage to Foreign Women are adaptations to an un natural Culture.
And to the realities of Men’s legal liabilities in dealing with Women. What Ms. Valenti the Malignant Narcissist fails to see is that Men know their options. And Men are saying why Bother with a Woman for a Relationship?? You can never meet their unrealistic expectations and demands. If you are clumsy in Seduction you are by default a Rapist. Why have your life destroyed by a Woman who does not care about you?
If Feminism’s impugning of Men continues. I see more US Men embracing Islam in anger to get even with Women. American Men are tired of their Second Class status. As to Feminists they can all go to Hell.
January 3, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Renegade Evolution
(waves to khank)
I see nothing wrong with the Real Dolls. If people (yep, some women have bought them to) want to (and can afford) buy them, they should not face all kinds of criticism for doing so.
January 4, 2008 at 6:46 am
fidelbogen
Hmmm! If anybody wants to f*ck a “human body” which is not alive, more power to ’em, eh? 😉
January 4, 2008 at 6:14 pm
dmz001
@bachelor tom
I think you’re half-right. Females are attracted to alpha males for sex but beta males for child-raising (boring but dependable).
Yes, which is far worse, because if women are having sex with alphas “for free” and expecting betas to “pay” with a relationship, then betas are cuckolds/submissives below the alpha. The only way for betas to fight back is to cut off all beta resources and services women are currently getting for free: no more relationships, time, money, chivalry, gov’t support, etc. Just use women for sex and babies the way alphas do, and if a you can’t accomplish this, it’s just better to have no woman at all, or use prostitutes.
@exposing feminism
In fact, matriarchy is the default, but it is not an ethical or healthy system the way feminists portray. Rather, it is simply the primitive alpha/harem system, where the females raise the offspring alone. This is the norm in poor and unstable environments (such as urban ghettos) and is becoming the norm in the western world as a whole under feminism. Patriarchy is the more modern system, which stabilized civilization and allowed it to grow into what it is today. However women/feminists are currently cuckolding/parasiting this system and using it to create matriarchy, which is why it must be destroyed and rebuilt into something which benefits men.
Daniel Amneus writes about this in his excellent work “Garbage Generation” (google it, it’s available online for free.)
January 6, 2008 at 2:15 pm
khankrumthebulgar
What about a sane life? One devoid of drama and intrigue? Why is it that Foreign Women see what the value proposition is that American and Western Men offer? A sane life with a loving, kind, dependable Partner. The same cannot be said for American Women. The Slut or Raunch Feminism has redefined Feminism. Amanda Marcotte and Jessica Valenti embrace Slut Feminism.
Due to the differences in our brains. In other words how we are hard wired. It is a reality. That Women who are or who do embrace Promiscuity. Are unfit to be Wives. They hard wire their behavior to cheat. Until they reach a point where they are no longer attractive. Who wants a used up Skank, screwed by every Man who passed her way? Who is likely to cheat on her first opportunity that a Pick Up Artist can manipulate her emotions? Especially when the Laws reward her for cheating on you.
January 7, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Renegade Evolution
::looks at Khank, blinks:::
Huh, I’m married and I absolutely love raunch. In fact, a whole lot of feminists are just baffled and utterly up in arms over the whole raunch issue. But I do dig my loving kind and dependable partner, that is true, and I guess he doesn’t see me as unfit to be a wife.
To each their own I suppose.
January 10, 2008 at 3:47 pm
bachelor tom
Another problem with modern romance is the increased danger of sexual harassment charges for the man. At the same time, most women still expect men to be the initiators in relationships (like the ’50s) – at least women’s mags seem to peddle the same old strategy of “hard-to-get” coyness (Cosmo et al).
Unless women en masse assume the role of initiator in romantic encounters, men are caught in a Catch-22 where we’re literally damned-if-we-do and damned-if-we-don’t.
btw Renegade: I’ve enjoyed your contributions at Feminist Critics, some great discussions there.
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