From http://menforjustice.net/;-
“Shaming tactics.” This phrase is familiar to many Men’s Rights Activists. It conjures up the histrionic behavior of female detractors who refuse to argue their points with logic. Yet women are not the only ones guilty of using shaming tactics against men. Male gynocentrists use them, too.
Shaming tactics are emotional devices meant to play on a man’s insecurities and shut down debate. They are meant to elicit sympathy for women and to demonize men who ask hard questions. Most, if not all, shaming tactics are basically ad homimem attacks.
Anyway, it might be helpful to categorize the major shaming tactics that are used against men whenever a discussion arises about feminism, men’s issues, romance, etc. The following list contains descriptions of shaming tactics, some examples of quotes employing the tactics, and even color-coded aliases for mnemonic purposes. Enjoy.
Charge of Irascibility (Code Red)
Discussion: The target is accused of having anger management issues. Whatever negative emotions he has are assumed to be unjustifiable. Examples:
- “You’re bitter!”
- “You need to get over your anger at women.”
- “You are so negative!”
Response: Anger is a legitimate emotion in the face of injustice. It is important to remember that passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue.
Charge of Cowardice (Code Yellow)
Discussion: The target is accused of having an unjustifiable fear of interaction with women. Examples:
- “You need to get over your fear.”
- “Step up and take a chance like a man!”
- “You’re afraid of a strong woman!”
Response: It is important to remember that there is a difference between bravery and stupidity. The only risks that reasonable people dare to take are calculated risks. One weighs the likely costs and benefits of said risks. As it is, some men are finding out that many women fail a cost-benefit analysis.
Charge of Hypersensitivity (Code Blue) – The Crybaby Charge
Discussion: The target is accused of being hysterical or exaggerating the problems of men (i.e., he is accused of playing “Chicken Little”). Examples:
- “Stop whining!”
- “Get over it!”
- “Suck it up like a man!”
- “You guys don’t have it as nearly as bad as us women!”
- “You’re just afraid of losing your male privileges.”
- “Your fragile male ego …”
- “Wow! You guys need to get a grip!”
Response: One who uses the Code Blue shaming tactic reveals a callous indifference to the humanity of men. It may be constructive to confront such an accuser and ask if a certain problem men face needs to be addressed or not (“yes” or “no”), however small it may be seem to be. If the accuser answers in the negative, it may constructive to ask why any man should care about the accuser’s welfare since the favor will obviously not be returned. If the accuser claims to be unable to do anything about the said problem, one can ask the accuser why an attack is necessary against those who are doing something about it.
Charge of Puerility (Code Green) – The Peter Pan Charge
Discussion: The target is accused of being immature and/or irresponsible in some manner that reflects badly on his status as an adult male. Examples:
- “Grow up!”
- “You are so immature!”
- “Do you live with your mother?”
- “I’m not interested in boys. I’m interested in real men.”
- “Men are shirking their God-given responsibility to marry and bear children.”
Response: It should be remembered that one’s sexual history, marital status, parental status, etc. are not reliable indicators of maturity and accountability. If they were, then we would not hear of white collar crime, divorce, teen sex, unplanned pregnancies, extramarital affairs, etc.
Charge of Endangerment (Code Orange) – The Elevated Threat Charge
Discussion: The target is accused of being a menace in some undefined manner. This charge may be coupled with some attempt to censor the target. Examples:
- “You guys are scary.”
- “You make me feel afraid.”
Response: It may be constructive to point out that only bigots and tyrants are afraid of having the truth expressed to them. One may also ask why some women think they can handle leadership roles if they are so threatened by a man’s legitimate freedom of expression.
Charge of Rationalization (Code Purple) – The Sour Grapes Charge
Discussion: The target is accused of explaining away his own failures and/or dissatisfaction by blaming women for his problems. Example:
- “You are just bitter because you can’t get laid.”
Response: In this case, it must be asked if it really matters how one arrives at the truth. In other words, one may submit to the accuser, “What if the grapes really are sour?” At any rate, the Code Purple shaming tactic is an example of what is called “circumstantial ad hominem.”
Charge of Fanaticism (Code Brown) – The Brown Shirts Charge
Discussion: The target is accused of subscribing to an intolerant, extremist ideology or of being devoted to an ignorant viewpoint. Examples:
- “You’re one of those right-wing wackos.”
- “You’re an extremist”
- “You sound like the KKK.”
- “… more anti-feminist zaniness”
Response: One should remember that the truth is not decided by the number of people subscribing to it. Whether or not certain ideas are “out of the mainstream” is besides the point. A correct conclusion is also not necessarily reached by embracing some middle ground between two opposing viewpoints (i.e., the logical fallacy of “False Compromise”).
Charge of Invirility (Code Lavender)
Discussion: The target’s sexual orientation or masculinity is called into question. Examples:
- “Are you gay?”
- “I need a real man, not a sissy.”
- “You’re such a wimp.”
Response: Unless one is working for religious conservatives, it is usually of little consequence if a straight man leaves his accusers guessing about his sexual orientation.
Charge of Overgeneralization (Code Gray)
Discussion: The target is accused of making generalizations or supporting unwarranted stereotypes about women. Examples:
- “I’m not like that!”
- “Stop generalizing!”
- “That’s a sexist stereotype!”
Response: One may point out that feminists and many other women make generalizations about men. Quotations from feminists, for example, can be easily obtained to prove this point. Also, one should note that pointing to a trend is not the same as overgeneralizing. Although not all women may have a certain characteristic, a significant amount of them might.
Charge of Misogyny (Code Black)
Discussion: The target is accused of displaying some form of unwarranted malice to a particular woman or to women in general. Examples:
- “You misogynist creep!”
- “Why do you hate women?”
- “Do you love your mother?”
- “You are insensitive to the plight of women.”
- “You are mean-spirited.”
- “You view women as doormats.”
- “You want to roll back the rights of women!!”
- “You are going to make me cry.”
Response: One may ask the accuser how does a pro-male agenda become inherently anti-female (especially since feminists often claim that gains for men and women are “not a zero-sum game”). One may also ask the accuser how do they account for women who agree with the target’s viewpoints. The Code Black shaming tactic often integrates the logical fallacies of “argumentum ad misericordiam” (viz., argumentation based on pity for women) and/or “argumentum in terrorem” (viz., arousing fear about what the target wants to do to women).
Charge of Instability (Code White) – The White Padded Room Charge
Discussion: The target is accused of being emotionally or mentally unstable. Examples:
- “You’re unstable.”
- “You have issues.”
- “You need therapy.”
- “Weirdo!”
Response: In response to this attack, one may point to peer-reviewed literature and then ask the accuser if the target’s mental and/or emotional condition can explain the existence of valid research on the matter.
Charge of Selfishness (Code Silver)
Discussion: This attack is self-explanatory. It is a common charge hurled at men who do not want to be bothered with romantic pursuits. Examples:
- “You are so materialistic.”
- “You are so greedy.”
Response: It may be beneficial to turn the accusation back on the one pressing the charge. For instance, one may retort, “So you are saying I shouldn’t spend my money on myself, but should instead spend it on a woman like you —and you accuse me of being selfish?? Just what were you planning to do for me anyway?”
Charge of Superficiality (Code Gold) – The All-That-Glitters Charge
Discussion: The charge of superficiality is usually hurled at men with regard to their mating preferences. Examples:
- “If you didn’t go after bimbos, then …”
- “How can you be so shallow and turn down a single mother?”
Response: Average-looking women can be just as problematic in their behavior as beautiful, “high-maintanence” women. Regarding the shallowness of women, popular media furnishes plenty of examples where petty demands are made of men by females (viz., those notorious laundry lists of things a man should/should not do for his girlfriend or wife).
Charge of Unattractiveness (Code Tan) – The Ugly Tan Charge
Discussion: The target is accused of having no romantic potential as far as women are concerned. Examples:
- “I bet you are fat and ugly.”
- “You can’t get laid!”
- “Creep!”
- “Loser!”
- “Have you thought about the problem being you?”
Response: This is another example of “circumstantial ad hominem.” The target’s romantic potential ultimately does not reflect on the merit of his arguments.
Charge of Defeatism (Code Maroon)
Discussion: This shaming tactic is akin to the Charge of Irascibility and the Charge of Cowardice in that the accuser attacks the target’s negative or guarded attitude about a situation. However, the focus is not so much on the target’s anger or fear, but on the target’s supposed attitude of resignation. Examples:
- “Stop being so negative.”
- “You are so cynical.”
- “If you refuse to have relationships with women, then you are admitting defeat.”
- “C’mon! Men are doers, not quitters.”
Response: The charge of defeatism can be diffused by explaining that one is merely being realistic about a situation. Also, one can point out that asking men to just accept their mistreatment at the hands of women and society is the real attitude that is defeatist. Many men have not lost their resolve; many have lost their patience.
Threat of Withheld Affection (Code Pink) – The Pink Whip
Discussion: The target is admonished that his viewpoints or behavior will cause women to reject him as a mate. Examples:
- “No woman will marry you with that attitude.”
- “Creeps like you will never get laid!”
Response: This is an example of the logical fallacy “argumentum ad baculum” (the “appeal to force”). The accuser attempts to negate the validity of a position by pointing to some undesirable circumstance that will befall anyone who takes said position. Really, the only way to deal with the “Pink Whip” is to realize that a man’s happiness and worth is not based on his romantic conquests (including marriage).
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November 9, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Richard
A question:
Something I hear a lot – and get sometimes:
You are ugly.
Basically, the target is accused of being aesthetically unpleasing.
I have had mixed reactions about my appearance – I am total G.Q. – I am average, I am “not bad” etc…
Why is it, then when presenting an argument to a feminist, they sometimes result to the “You are Ugly” charge?
Can whomever wrote this catalogue of male-shaiming tactics – please give a explanaion and counter-attack for that one?
Thanks.
November 3, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Ben GIlliland
“Whomever” is an objective pronoun. In fact, you type like a complete idiot. I’m ashamed to be on your side.
March 16, 2012 at 4:45 am
Anonymous
love doesnt enter to anybodys life through the eyes…..
May 18, 2012 at 12:09 am
Julia
Well, if you’re called ugly like that then you’re probably are. The appropriate counter attack to that would be to accept this reality about you and move on. Honestly the average person just doesn’t get randomly call ugly like that, it’s quite an usual happening in fact -unless someone is in kinder garden maybe but I doubt you’re writing this from a per-school establishment or even high school environment.
Whereas women tend to rationalize negative aspect of themselves, men I found tend to focus more on facts, rational discourse and more abstract thinking, on average of course.
May 19, 2012 at 12:03 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
NO ONE is ugly honey.
May 20, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Mike
@Julia.. all women are crazy. They are smaller weaker creatures and in order to survive in physical reality for hundreds of thousands of years their brains adapted to how they could manipulate men with whatever they could surmise, in order to get one to take care of them, otherwise they PERISHED> women’s biology has not changed one iota.. They will never be RATIONAL. Women use ‘feeling’ and irrational emotional guilt barrages. which is what the entire feminist insanity is, there is nothing normal about any of it. Women NEVER SHUT UP, they are never happy, and they are like locusts… if you do not simply, as a man, put a stop to their childish behaviors, they will burn everyone around them including themselves into oblivion. Your charge that someone is UGLY if called ugly and that they should accept it.. is pretty hilarious. That is common female DISlogic.. because in reality women always use personal attacks when they cannot win a logical argument, but then scream bloody murder if you turn the tables as a man and personally attack them, calling them ugly, fat, whorish, skanky, loose, masculine, hairy.. doesn’t matter if you attack the vain gender about their imperfect image, there is hell to pay.. but the nice part is after you get the nasty little witch to fly away on her broom, you’re done listening to her. Personally I would prefer that the entire world adopt Sharia Law, and force women to wear burqas and behave themselves or be stoned.. that will but an end to the insane shit women in the West have done to society.. aborted billions of children (MURDER) , destroyed millions of men’s lives, homes, jobs, and abandoned their children…. all the while making themselves MORE miserable and the men around then angry. the backlash is going to be enormous. Men are so sick and tired of feminism that if ever there was brewing a violent storm underground like Fight Club pointed out.. it would be the anger and rage that men feel toward women who have used the State to destroy society and men’s roles in it. The Muslims are right when it comes to handling females emotional tirades. You do not let them make laws.. you don’t emasculate society and destroy men’s identities. This rage and backlash is sure to blow up in women’s faces as it has in the past.. in Russia or other places. The funniest irony is now women seem to be reading “rape” novels.. apparently they know subconsciously that they are f’d up and deserve to have what’s coming to them. Submitting to it willfully.. rather than being a victim of it. Men are dominant powerful creatures. Any woman who doubts this should be stuck on an deserted island with no government elite faggots running it, just the men there who will create the Law of the Jungle all over again. Women think they can be equal to men. Its laughable. Women don’t build anything… name a damn bridge, buildiing, road system, airplane, railway… any freaken system whatsoever.. computers… satellites.. space shuttles.. BUILT ENTIRELY BY WOMEN !!! SEE THE OPPOSITE IS NOT TRUE MEN CAN BUILD THESE SYSTEMS WITHOUT WOMEN AT ALL. Women are good at one thing… destroying what men build.
September 19, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Lee
Mommy issues, much? Oh, the big bad feminists don’t want you?. Whatever, toots.
December 21, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Anonymous
What would be considered ugly would be your personality if you indeed act that way.
March 26, 2013 at 1:06 pm
wallypops
Ugly isn’t much of a factor in a man’s ability to attract females. Power is the key. Women are attracted to power. She will self-assess her looks based on how she compares to the others in her group and then look around and try to find a suitable partner accordingly. If she over-assesses, she’ll risk disappointment but sometimes pulls it off. Women mature faster, can read emotion on faces better, have higher verbal ability, use both hemispheres of the brain more readily and don’t allow logic to interfere with their experience of life.men dont catch up until their thirties and forties. Mother nature stacks the deck in a woman’s favour early because their reproductive window of opportunity is smaller than men’s (15-35 prime vs 15-55+ for men). They come by rheir power attraction honestly: it is an evolutionary adaptation put in place to compensate for the vulnerability inherent in child-rearing. A strong powerful and capable male is essential for parenting and providing. Look around you: you always see guys with women where you question how that runt got that babe. He’s got power in some form. He is the boss, or has money, or some other form of power. Bad boys get babes based on this same condition. Ugly? Ha! I wouldn’t worry about it. Make yourself powerful, ugly is a non-factor.
July 4, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Henry
I can easily explain this. The woman who says “you are ugly” is responding as though she is responding to another woman. You see, in a woman’s delusional world view, she is the center of her world, she is strong, beautiful, independent and so on. The charge of “you are ugly” strikes at the heart of this delusion. For women this simply sentence can shatter their delusion if it comes from some who they “trusted” (aka expected to be their friend and constantly say nice things to them). For men, the world is based on reality and not on their looks. Men hardly ever achieve anything based on looking beautiful. This charge also seeks to get a man to respond in kind (e.g. calling her a cunt) and thereby side-stepping the actual argument. The best response is “and so are you”.
August 6, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Anonymous
Julia, you are one cold hearted b. Ugly or not, does anybody deserve to be kicked while they’re down like this? Really? No. Yeah somebody could be one ugly motherfucker, but they still feel. Women, most of all should understans
Mike, leave the basement and get some sunlight once in a while you troll. Jesus h Christ. Man you must have gotten burned pretty bad to be in such denial., go into such a victim frame of mind.
August 26, 2013 at 9:10 am
Anonymous
Ignore. Agree. Amplify
May 9, 2014 at 3:54 am
yoyojemojo
Because they have created a Society of reduced men who are desperate for validation from unemployed, uneducated, face painted leeches who declare their disapproval all day and hand out (denied) As and Bs to men at night.
Betrayed ‘men’-in-denial are to blame for indulging and meekly tolerating (even rewarding) their abuse.
March 3, 2015 at 4:08 pm
Caitlin
This is pretty ridiculous. No self respecting feminist would use any of these arguments. Most of these are ad-hominem and have nothing to do with feminist theory. Calling men “weak” or “gay” or comparing them to women upholds patriarchal gender stereotypes. Calling men extremists erases the pervasiveness of harmful patriarchal attitudes in our society. No feminist would tell men that they have to associate with women (dating, marriage, etc.) in order to have value, though interacting with women who are educated in feminist thought and have incorporated it into their lives can foster a greater awareness of the dynamics of inequality.
As for the ego argument, men’s egos do get in the way of understanding their position of privilege because they can’t get beyond focusing on all of the things that could potentially hurt their feelings, even though that isn’t the aim of feminist discourse in the first place.
Ego is also an issue for any woman “feminist” who uses these arguments (though i doubt it’s as common as is perceived by whomever wrote this article) because they don’t at all focus on larger trends at play and instead serve to bolster the ego of the woman.
Basically, this article represents a gross misunderstanding of the purpose of feminism and allows men to feel comfortable in continuing to uphold the patriarchy by discounting thinking women as “crazy man-haters”.
March 29, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Barry K
You raise some interesting points here, but more in the context of resolving things in a healthy way.
I don’t think you need any “counter-attacks”, there are ways to steer the conversation in a healthy direction and away from personal attacks.
Most of the comments I’ve read on here I disagree with. Stop being internally ugly and you will attract like-minded people and repel unhealthy people, which is fine.
As far as men movements vs. woman movements, the very adversarial perspective indicates that you guys DO have problems. You can stand up for yourself without participating in ugliness.
People want to inject ugliness into your life, move on. Treat others with respect and they will reciprocate, and if the don’t, respectfully decline to participate in it, you have better things to do with your time.
How about equality? How about liking and respecting women? Liking and respecting yourself?
I’ve never had these kind of conversations with any woman… why are you? Why is it even coming up?
May 2, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Boringusername
There were like 3 or 4 shaming tactics in your comment, yet you say you have never encountered them.
February 13, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Alan
Hi Barry,
I hear what you are saying and I agree that you get back what you give out. When someone is taking your kids away from you. An old bitter woman and she is trying to make it as painful as possible.
You have given everything for you kids and love them. I am a very gentle man, but I would kill someone to ensure my kids were safe. I have been attacked in my bed while asleep by my wife.
I don’t agree that women will give back respect for respect. In general woman will feel that you are a weak man if you respect them and will have no respect for you and look for a “bad boy” to fuck.
September 19, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Lee
Right on.
June 6, 2013 at 4:35 am
Anonymous
Thank you. I have heard some terrifying opinions here about what needs to be “done” about women. Relieved to hear a voice of reason.
May 9, 2014 at 4:04 am
yoyojemojo
Equality?
Women can change their mind during sex.
Men cannot change their mind during life.
“Till death do us part.”
Equality.
‘Men’ like you who respect being degraded, incentivise their antisocial conduct and meekly indulge them, are to blame.
October 1, 2010 at 10:50 am
Bromar
Yo, Richard, Code tan.
October 28, 2010 at 1:56 am
Rocio
This sounds like a list of things that men hear in their heads when they think of women talking. I’d like to read any feminist book (or actually, I’d like you to find it) that says any of those things.
The article is funny “ha ha” but really, when was the last time you put yourself in the position that a woman would even say that to you? Like, really say that to you, not just the this-is-what-I-think-she’s-saying crap.
March 23, 2011 at 9:20 am
Dave Ribbons
Rocio:
Are you kidding us? Men get to hear each and everyone of those statements, ALL THE F**KING TIME! Duh!
April 22, 2011 at 8:51 am
Will Wallace LA
Seriously Rocio, this is standard verbiage from western females. If you haven’t been bombarded with it, you are either very young, or very lucky.
See this post for just a taste: Shaming – a feminist response.
September 13, 2012 at 3:35 am
Humanist
@Rocio: I can understand why you might find it easy to dismiss when you said “when was the last time you put yourself in the position that a woman would even say that to you? Like, really say that to you, not just the this-is-what-I-think-she’s-saying crap”, and I can give you a recent example I dealt with. A female co-worker (with who I am very good friends with) was carrying on about how women should kick their partners in the balls if they piss them off. I take an issue with that and respectfully said so. She was so incensed by this and defensive, that she told me to stop whining and acting like a cry-baby. As a man, who has also dealt with this issue of violent sexual assault on my genitals, I felt totally invalidated, and not worth another thought…for just a moment. The problem is, that she was very serious about the remarks she said, which were that assaulting men in the testicles is perfectly acceptable. Upon discussing this further, she came to agree with me that this has been fed to us through the media, to be acceptable. It is small, subtly dangerous opinions which are being fed to us, which when put together, display a much more vicious face. I have no problem with women. I have a problem with any man or woman, who thinks the opposite gender is beneath them, in any way shape or form. I support the men’s rights movement, because it stands for human rights, not just men’s.
May 17, 2016 at 3:13 am
Anonymous
What a dishonest creep you are. I saw 50 times worse than those example comments from feminists on youtube in the last 30 minutes.
September 8, 2016 at 9:25 pm
Mike Stidham
Uh, signing up for a grad school class not knowing the professor was a radical feminist?
December 26, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Laura
The attacks that you list are sexist, not feminist.
“I need a real man, not a sissy.”
This sort of comment upholds a male/female relationship that I, as a feminist, have striven against. If I insist that my man be strong, than I also insist that I don’t need to be. I may as well quit voting, stop expecting equal pay for equal work, and start spending my time exclusively on housework. The point of feminism is to question traditional gender roles, and the fact that this questioning came first from women stems from the fact that in the past women were economically and politically disadvantaged due to the gender roles assigned to them. Feminists, or at least those I identify with, seek a world in which gender identity disadvantages no one, not even men.
So, to insist that a man “act like a man” seems to be inherently anti-feminist.
March 16, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Fidelbogen
Laura: Anything that attacks men in any way IS inherently feminist.
As a self-proclaimed feminist, you no longer have the monopoly on defining feminism.
Non-feminists (those who live outside the feminist perimeter) can objectively see what feminism is in relation to the world-at-large.
Your statement, on the other hand, is what we call feminist subjectivism.
April 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm
wat
Sexism and Feminism go hand in hand.
March 12, 2012 at 4:07 am
Anonymous Anthropologist
Feminism IS sexism, and is ultimately just as bad as male sexism toward women. Any sexism is inherently detrimental and feminism is not different in that regard
June 13, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Val
You make the statement “If I insist that my man be strong, than I also insist that I don’t need to be. I may as well quit… etc.”
No.
What gives you that notion? What precipitates that idea? No where has it been defined that if you insist your man be strong then you must be weak or you do not need to be strong?
I demand my man be strong and encourage the men in my group of friends to be strong and powerful individuals in their own way. Why? Because I choose to be strong myself – The world is not an easy one and I would have BOTH of us strong in an equal relationship so as to face that together.
If I say I am feminist and want the freedom to have and choose strength in my life over weakness (identifying strength as an elevation over weakness), then equality dictates that if I would like to have that strength in the people in my life that I should be able to state it or insist it freely.
If I say I am feminist and want absolute freedom of equality then it is no disadvantage to say that I would like a man to act like a man not glorifying the traditional patriarchal culture but using that as a simpler means of identifying or referencing the choice of strength over weakness.
It is a reference that may fade in the future, who knows. A new one may be adopted, for example the one where young men reference the strength of the women, their mothers in particular, who stand up, endure or triumph over abusive fathers/husbands. (example only).
September 2, 2012 at 10:28 am
Bifocal
Val:
“I demand my man be strong and encourage the men in my group of friends to be strong and powerful individuals in their own way.”
I have no problem with men being the ‘rock’ in a relationship, I have found it helps define a relationship in those times when both parties are at a loss, vulnerable or just defensive. But I also have no problem with strong women who lead with compassion.
What really pisses me off, is that men are not allowed to break down at any time. Oh sure male tears of grief are permitted but tears of bewilderment, astonishment and plain disbelief are still considered weaknesses and open to feminist contempt.
All I can say is that a woman who has not cried is not a woman and a man who has not cried is probably a woman.
November 12, 2013 at 1:04 am
rose
This article is absolutely ridiculous and extreme. Feminism is not about putting down males to the same degraded level of women but instead creating equality between the two genders. Feminism is not about ‘man hate’ as this website clams it is about celebrating the intelligence and achievement of women and putting them on a equal par to men.
Feminism is about NOT objectifying and sexualising women but valuing them for intellectual, physical and moral strength.
Feminism is not anti-male it is pro-female.
I honestly think it is so negative to have websites like this one that make the idea of equality seem unimportant and is not something that impressionable young people should be learning from and basing opinions from.
January 11, 2014 at 8:31 pm
TYLER LORGE II
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March 9, 2015 at 10:05 pm
fatemaster1
Feminism is sexism and if you are looking for equality then you are an egalitarian, not a feminist. You need to realize the lies that feminists have been preaching and realize that feminism is not about equality but about female domination. Note the roots of the word feminism – feminine -ism exactly how does this not convey a very specific form of sexism?
February 12, 2016 at 9:27 pm
Anonymous
Thanks for proving more reasons to ignor all of you Real men don’t want you trust me
April 12, 2011 at 2:55 am
Lordmep
Can I post this on my deviantArt page? Naturally I’d link to the original and give you guys all the credit, but I’ve heard quite a few of these thus far and it would be nice to let these people that their arguements have been cataloged.
April 22, 2011 at 9:38 am
Will Wallace LA
This article is so completely awesome and necessary.
Just another huge ‘feminist’ contradiction occurred to me as I was reading through the comments. Their whole claim is based on equality of gender, and gender as being artificial. Sound contradictory? It is. They say gender doesn’t exist when they want to steal men’s jobs, but when it comes to family court, they say the female gets everything be the fact of her gender. That is the biggest load of tripe I can ever imagine. I can’t believe I’m just seeing it now. Grief. Female manipulation has got to be the great scourge of man.
April 3, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Frankie
Agree 100%, it is so bad that women have convinced themselves they are not sexists even when we show them the role reversal scenario. Again, it’s only sexist when men do it!
September 19, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Lee
Another bitter, sore ass wimp. We don’t need to “steal” jobs, honey, we EARN them. See, you don’t get privileges just because you have a penis? REAL life doesn’t work that way? Work like a woman and EARN your way in this world, honey. And tell the entitled, lazy male whiners in your family the same thing.
October 14, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Mark
After reading “Lee’s” comment…..”work like a woman”?(lazy & entitled)…L*…and other comments like hers…I have began to have a deep admiration for the Sicilian Mafia.When was the last time you saw a woman inducted into La Cosa Nostra as a “made man”….NEVER!….There is no such animal….and there never will be…Thank God!…That is a man’s game!
I am surprised that “Femi-Nazi’s like Lee have not taken the major mafia clans to court under the guise of “discrimination” to have “wimmin” inducted into the Mafia……What a joke!….LOL!
September 30, 2012 at 9:05 pm
CODEEE GURL
I was accidentally routed to this site by a friend. If there’s truely good men out there, someday Id love one to be sent my way. Anyone who knows me will advocate that in my thrity years of life I have dated a variety of men, from various religious beleifs, ethnicities, tall and short, poor and wealthy, each raised differently. I havn’t yet had one who just did me right… the basics, like help me when I need a pick-up, stay faithful and not have affairs, be honest even if the truth isnt good, work with me with our money, meet my needs like i do yours, give me a little of your time and attention, tell me you love me sometimes, etc etc etc…
It’s very very sad! I am a dang good woman, and look at me im on fb… im beautiful and thin, my heart is pure, I’m honest, devotional to my loved ones and have strength in my religious faith, am slow to criticize and im a hard worker, good cook, etc etc etc.
I’m thirty, and remarried three years ago… to a man i thought was the love of my life. Instead, it is the same old experiences I’ve had with every other of the 100 guys I dated. This one is a cheater… lies, hides money, neglects my health needs and emotional needs, allows his kids (my step kids) to disrespect me, and all I do is struggle to smile… and cry most days. Affairs are so obvious, but do i get honesty? NO….
The reason men receive so much slander is because if there’s a good ONE, theyre ONE out out of one hundred in one men. It hurts to be honest about this… theres so much to enjoy being in a relationship, but the scope of damage many many men create is overwhelming and the devastation is so FRUSTRATING, and the recovery thereafter is a complex challenge.
I’d give ANYTHING for some honesty from a man. In fact, now that I’m an adult, women in my family such as mom, grandmas, and GREATgrandmas are able to speak to me about the men in our family, and how one was a wife beater, one an alcoholic abuser, etc etc… things I never knew but now I do. And I have family from each social class… one was a sherriff, one was a small business owner, one was a mechanic, etc etc… and all those men had commonalities of the BAD man. Is this all really coincidental?
The man I’m married to now is very involved in church, and I’ve observed so much that theres no need for me to catch him with his pants down… all I’ve seen is plenty good verification that his sexual interests arent with me.
Sorry, I wish I could defend men, have a man who was worthy of defense and was capable of loving me in ways I do love him. But I don’t, and I’ve come to accept I never will, because they don’t exist. Oh… and if youre the woman who beleives your husband is not a cheater, browse ashleymadison .com or look in your computer cache for OTR files and learn about skype, google off record chat, etc etc… you may find that your husband isnt who you think he is!
November 5, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Vinka
Codie Gurl,
I empathise with you. Let me tell you about one exception, or that one percent you mention: my late husband. Ours was an egalitarian, reciprocal, loving relationship. His behaviour was the same in public as in private; being more organised than me, he did more housework, especially whilst I was at university. Oh and cooking and changing nappies, too. At night, he would sometimes get up to see to our baby even if it wasn’t his turn. He would wash and change her then bring her to my side of the bed, unbutton my nursing bra, put the baby near the nipple. His empathic understanding was extraordinary.
We had rows, of course, but no shouting matches, hostilities or
verbal abuse.
One day he told me something that not many men would dream of admitting to their wives or girlfriends. Whilst boarding a bus that morning, a beautiful young woman was in front of him. He had a “gallant response”. I loughed, delighted that he shared such intimate moment with me, which might have freaked out many women. Ladies, remember, if your man shares such intimacy he is not going to act on his impulses! Trust is so important. If at least 51 % of men were half as good, there would be no need for feminism. One of the “rules” for women is: never show your hair in curlers. My husband used to …. curl my hair, pluck my eyebrows. I didn’t reciprocate in this! Lol He used to say that equality is so sexy. When a woman is treated with love and respect, she feels sexy and desires hot sex with her husband or boyfriend. I never met anyone remotely like him.
November 10, 2012 at 8:46 pm
stonedsquirrel
pfft, n i’ve yet to meet a woman that doesnt turn into a sour child when things dont go their way.. Including my dear old mom who i do love like anyone loves their mother thankyou, but who is more vicious than my father.. I’m goin on 30, n yet to ‘date’ a single one cause of that. ppl suck. sure.. but i’d like to think there are decent ones out there..
June 1, 2013 at 4:27 am
Corey
As a man, I can’t say that I agree with you about the 1:101 ratio. None of my good male friends have ever thought about cheating on their significant others, and I can only think of one person in my extended circle of friends who acts that way, and makes it pretty obvious. For instance, he’s getting married soon, but there’s no way that his fiancé doesn’t know what she’s getting into. I don’t believe in any of the extreme anti-feminism that I’ve read on this site, but I certainly have a problem with women going for a more aggressive male then complaining about how there are no good men out there. The fact is that they’re just not directly in front of your face every time you walk out the door.
October 24, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Roy
When and if you read this tell me if you read what you wrote would you advise your son to date/marry a woman who has said what you said and wrote
Life is cruel sadly and it will continue to be so
Good women as Good men are few and far between most are opportunistic and narrow minded but every so often one comes along and remember we love people for their flaws because if we had none then I and You would be God —-and last I checked if one is to believe then there is only One
October 13, 2014 at 3:03 am
Anonymous
It’s you, it’s your choices, it’s your tastes in men, stop blaming men, sure there are both bad men and women, but if you dated so many guys, and truly believe that there is one good men in a hundred, and that one man in a hundred does not want you, well use logic and deductive reasoning, and recognize and admit, that the one constant factor in your failed relationships is you.
Own up to it, because until you own up to your own responsibility in your choices in relationship, you will never grow past your failures.
Good luck.
January 27, 2015 at 5:26 pm
Anonymous
I’ve had exactly the same in reverse. I’ve yet to meet an honest, caring, considerate, sensible, intelligent, laid back, FAITHFUL woman. Every one has cheated, lied, only ever thought of what they want, manipulated, bitched, moaned, acted completely irrationally and never gave a shit about my needs.
March 9, 2015 at 10:24 pm
fatemaster1
Every women I’ve encountered has screwed up her chances with me by either being offensive/rude towards me or just by not saying what she means. The fact of the matter is you are probably screwing up your chances with the good men out there by repeating these same mistakes. Speak your mind, but remember to think before you speak. We don’t appreciate being insulted any more than you do, and we aren’t mind readers, you need to use real words to communicate with us. Say what you mean and mean what you say but mind your manners and don’t say anything to us that you wouldn’t want to hear if the tables were reversed. I actually had a woman say to me “Why are all guys such creeps?” If I had been prepared for this level of insulting stupidity at the time, I would have responded with “because you’re a sexist bitch and you don’t deserve any better.”
February 12, 2016 at 9:39 pm
Anonymous
Ah guess what A real man hear Every girl friend has cheated on me and my wife But still my wife of 26yrs Forgave her because I love her and she has forgiven me for my short comings And no I didn’t cheat or ever hit her My addiction she forgave me for Was clean over 17yrs and let her down She stuck by me So I can tell you All women cheat Enjoy your life alone and yes you women get jobs on your looks and men earn them Ok wasted enough of my life on you Hang in my brothers and just ignor them all Oh any honey (my wife not you) love ya Glad I got the only good one left
May 26, 2016 at 4:36 pm
TheAlphaMaleInTheMaking
Codee Girl, no man will ever do you ‘right’. You have been living in your Disney fantasies for way too long. You know what you need? An alpha male. That’s right. You need a man who is EXTREMELY high social status, seeing whom every girl in the vicinity gets wet the instant he walks by, who fucks multiple women simultaneously with threesomes, foursomes all comprising Playboy models or women with equivalent physical attractiveness. You have just been getting beta males all along who have been feminized way too much, and are pathetic and cannot give you the orgasms your subconscious, animalistic mind has been wanting to get for so long secretly. Just wait till you meet your alpha male and you fall for him LOL. I can swear to you, you WILL fall for him real hard, the way you never ever thought of even in your wildest dreams. Only if you’re lucky and hot enough. Good luck. You’re gonna need it because they’re a huge rarity in today’s generation of post-feminism overly feminized males.
December 28, 2012 at 5:22 am
Rich Bianchi
Okay guys, first off I think a lot of you misunderstand feminism. Feminism is rooted both in the archaic and in the paleolithic cultural mindset. It is a mix of Natural selection in action and traditionalism. Feminism is playing into the idea that a woman is a child who deserves to be treated equal but still as a child when it comes to responsibility. It is fully protected by Chivalry which is still alive and well but also stands in defiance of family morals from traditionalism. Men of traditionalist thought are incapable of fighting it without being a villain as he is fighting a child not an adult in his mind. The female feminist still feels like she should be treated as a child, a lady, and should be courted while prancing around in next to nothing in her rebellion against traditionalism aka “patriarchy”. The Paleolithic fears of being objectified, lusted after, even the rape hysteria is rooted in a prehistoric fear of being raped and left to the wild impregnated with no chance to survive. In her mind she needs to safely choose the best most qualified protective mate. This is also why a woman is much less likely to pick someone who they deem a loser as a sexual partner, how would a loser protect her and her child? How would a loser provide? This is prehistoric thinking.
While rape is -ALWAYS- going to be wrong because it is a forceful invasion of another person’s body; The feminist claim that a lustful man objectifies them and that the man should not be allowed to is actually rape of the man’s sexuality, it is forcing him to submit sexually. Therefore let people look and hollar, and if you don’t like it plug your ears and ignore it. If he touches you then call the cops.
Of course we should actually have some decent evidence before destroying a life.
Feminists do not want women to take responsibility for their poor behavior though, that’s the offshoot from traditionalism still. The women and children get the lifeboats remember? Women are equated to children not adults.
So what does rational thinking teach? What will a new age of non traditionalism and free thinking lead to? It -HAS- to lead to the fact that logical ideas that are fair and still applicable should always take precedence as long as they do not oppress people.
Ad Hominem thought will only exist so long as free thinking is not embraced. When it is, we will see an end to feminism and an end to traditionalism. We will live in an age of absolute equality. I think we really need to push for free thought.
Equal = Equal
You don’t have to be a programmer to realize what equality means, you don’t have to be a Taoist priest to understand what balance is.
Start placing logic over emotion and justice will really prevail where greed is absent.
October 26, 2016 at 1:52 am
PhDyMy
Equal isn’t equal.
Women don’t accept equal opportunity. They want equal outcome for less effort and in many cases for no effort.
That’s called slavery. They strive to be the masters.
We’re fighting to get our rights back and we understand that their unwillingness to give up supremacy will result in some blood on the streets.
It’s about time.
June 11, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Lee Kallett
This is my alimony horror story. In the no fault divorce state of Florida, the ex had many adulterous affairs with other women (while pregnant 18 years ago with the second and last child)-including and incestuous one with her 20 year old cousin. She gets rewarded for this and her changed sexual orientation with lifetime alimony by the Hillsborough County Court (Tampa) and I get punished financially. How is this right and just? It certainly isn’t and the time to fix such an injustice is now. She uses a made up name in day to day life as well as on her blogs and freelance photojournalist entires. The only time her true and legal name is used is on her driver’s licence and to cash the alimony checks I write in her legal name at the bank. The duplicity continues.
Elvina and Lee Kallett of St. Pete Beach, FL – Pays lifetime alimony to woman unable to remarry
Lee Kallett of St. Pete Beach, FL – Pays $4K in permanent alimony to lesbian ex-wife
http://www.youtube.com
This is Lee Kallett and Elvina Kallett. He pays permanent alimony to a woman who left the marriage because she chose to live a lesbian
December 26, 2013 at 10:31 pm
Anonymous
Feminism need to be eradicated to safeguard the future of humanity. Females are not effective leaders, they are prone to making foolish emotion based decisions. Feminists are subhumans and deserve to be killed.
January 14, 2014 at 9:34 pm
Cat
All this has nothing to do with feminists. Actually exactly this tactic is used against “feminists”. Every time I hear men like you that feminists are ugly, no man would like to marry them, they will send all their miserable life alone with cats etc. Feminists usually never argue back in the same way. And usually it is the “real ladies”/housewives that use this tactics on men. Like “no woman would marry such immature guy”, “you are afraid to take responsibilities as a man” etc.
March 10, 2014 at 1:17 am
f kush
Guys, always have multiple girls in your bullpen so you get the steady supply of sex you want. Never have sex without a condom, never movie in with one, never marry one, get a vasectomy and make them believe you want to have kids with them then dump them like the trash they are.
June 8, 2014 at 4:49 am
Libby
The ring in the middle of my back broke off. I can’t blame anyone in particular, just everyone who thinks whipping a dead rented mule will get your load carried for you.
July 6, 2014 at 11:05 am
Not_Deceived
This is very interesting, but I don’t think that these kind of tactics are reserved for feminists/women’s rights activists. Plenty of “men’s rights” ( the idea of which I find absurd ) use the same appeals and flaws, as do politicians, business people, basically everyone. It’s not justifiable to levy these charges solely at feminists. interesting all the same.
August 12, 2014 at 11:57 am
fabrizzo
Wow,it seem as if this article has brought to light all the shaming tactics done by women that the very same women have accused the men of committing.I just wish,at the very least,all men can see the light of this,especially those fags who have submitted to the culture of whiteknighting for women,and instead do something to stand up for their fellow brothers.When will whiteknighetrs understand,no matter how much they suceed in helping women push for their rights,which currently are actually more like luxuries,there is no way they themselves will be included in those luxuries,because they will never be women,since being a woman by law is defined by having that part of the human anatomy and not depending on whose side u fight for.When will they get that they are fighting against justice,against nature and ultimately against themselves?There is so much in men’s rights that need improvement,that they could be spending their time and effort on,if they didnt focus on glorifying the opposite gender so much.
December 16, 2015 at 9:48 pm
Anonymous
If you guys were good with women, you wouldn’t need to give each other tips.
October 6, 2007 at 8:58 pm
khankrumthebulgar
The attempts to shame Men into behaving play into the Female tactics to use words to control children. It is no longer working on Men who are ignoring Women and their insults. In fact many of us consider it a sign of our Independence and breaking out from their control over us. Bring it on bitches.
We are happy to retaliate in kind. With some choice comments.
Did the batteries die in your Sex Toy?
Boy that dress sure makes you look Fat?
Not getting any Honey?
Is your Butch Girlfriend angry with you?
Your comments do not qualify for my time or Interest Piss Off.
You are as ugly outside as you are inside.
I see lots of Cats in your future, just not Men and children.
How long have you been a Lesbian and a Man Hater?
Ron White was right. You can’t fix stupid.
April 14, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Ann
Hmmmm. Those kinds of views dont help either side. I know i make a personal effort not to degrade any one (men or women). I try and take each person as they are and not fit them into gender stereotypes. I have transgendered friends, gay friends, feminists, friends and i have grown up around people who dont have the greatest opinion of women. I personally dont think extremism on both sides will help anything, just create more animosity. Understanding and acceptance that gender roles do not define a a person will bring the greatest harmony to men and womes
March 8, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Lori Wagner
Good job Ann, I agree totally. Many of these things have been said against men, women, white, black, brown people. It’s not helping anyone to point the finger.
July 20, 2012 at 12:45 pm
frankie
You mean those kinds of views don’t help women only! Before equality there need to be an acknowledgement of what the issue is being brought up here and you totally ignore them! It is extremely important to bring up the unfairness first and foremost so we know where everyone stands. By ignoring the issues discuss here, you are assuming equality is achieved but only as far as in this forum. Basically you are saying to men to just take it like a man and stop whining! If you have nothing fair and good to say, don’t insult us with this “I am all for equality” nonsense. Instead why don’t you repeat what you say here in those feminists forums?? I am waiting!
May 27, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Anonymous
ABSOLUTELY & right to the point. As far as the two “not helpful” comments.. You are simply missing the point & are still stuck in your gynocentric thought patterns. All of these female tactics are passive-aggressive or covert-aggressive manipulation. A form of deciept, when someone is being this deceitful, call them on it in public then shun further contact.
There are all kinds perverting the English language here on the word “respect”. Get a dictionary & look it up. Respect is a feeling of great admiration invoked by someone’s attributes or accomplishments. Women are walking around “demanding” men have this feeling? Based on thier physiology? The only feeling such demands raise in me are disgust & intolerance.
Look up the psychological foundations of the emotion “Love” (Robert Pluchik Emotion Wheel) Love = Joy + Trust. A manipulative (deceitful) argumentative (unjoyous B) will not invoke the feeling of Love in anyone, even children.
What we have here with these tactics is Custer-B Personality Disordered females running amuck. Call them out immediately, tattoo their foreheads with a biohazard symbol, shun them. My tolerance of this behaviour is gone, do not treat these females “respectfully”.. Cut them off.
May 27, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
Just brilliant.
September 19, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Lee
Here’s some comments and questions for you:
Stop blaming all women because the world didn’t hand you a living. Your sexist father forgot how to teach you to be a man?
Upset because your next door neighbor doesn’t like you commenting on his 16 year old daughter’s “boobs”?
Bitter because the cost of Penthouse went up?
You know, soap and water are cheap?
No, your beer gut is not sexy.
What age were you when you discovered your dumb mother was NEVER going to save your from your abusive, shit of a father’s fists?
Got over the fact that having a penis doesn’t outdo intelligence, hard-work and making an effort?
Bitter that you could never understand classy, smart women?
Your ass is too huge, boy.
How’s your boyfriend, dear?
Still bitter you aren’t getting any?
Time to grow up and START being a man, you angry, confused woman-hater.
October 7, 2012 at 11:38 am
Bifocal
Oh dear Lee, no one else will bother responding to your sociopathic rant, so please allow me to offer you the simplest advice possible: In reading your shrill misandrist (if not misanthropic) diatribe, let us suppose that where you mention “male” you Freudianly meant “female”; give it a read, I think most of us who have lived more than 30 years un-cosseted by academic institutionalism will certainly recognise the feminist cross-dressing. LOL!!
“Here’s some comments and questions for you:
Stop blaming all men because the world didn’t hand you a living. Your sexist mother forgot how to teach you to be a woman?
Upset because your next door neighbor doesn’t comment on your 16 year old daughter’s “boobs”? (Ain’t got no enemy there babe.)
Bitter because the cost of pantihose, underwear, and uplifting bras went up?
You know, soap and water are cheap? You really don’t need brand products to feel like a woman.
No, your beer gut is not sexy. Nor is my shrill nagging demeanour.
What age were you when you discovered your dumb mother was NEVER going to save you(r – sic) from your abusive, shit of a father’s penis?
Got over the fact that having a vagina doesn’t outdo intelligence, hard-work and making an effort?
Bitter that you could never understand classy, smart men?
Your ass is too huge, girl.
How’s your girlfriend, dear?
Still bitter you aren’t getting any?
Time to grow up and START being a woman, you angry, confused man-hater.”
Hits a nerve? This drivel is not worth plagiarising except to record the lack of feminist originality.
October 14, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Mark
Anything that bleeds for 5 days and does not die?…..cannot be trusted!…..Now go feed your cats Lee!
December 18, 2012 at 5:34 am
Brucey
seriously Lee – get some help.. this is sick
March 12, 2015 at 10:17 pm
Anonymous
You are in for a rude awakening in about 20 years my little friend.
February 12, 2016 at 9:54 pm
Anonymous
Thank you for proving his point Now the true you comes out Women hater wow hear a lot of hate from you Oh and have a good day and no hate here Just glad not to know ya Your easy to just walk right past and never notice as I do everyday Oh and doesn’t hurt to say thank you for holding the door As I do for men and women Trust don’t want just have manners
January 25, 2008 at 10:45 am
A Readér
Charge of Fanaticism (Code Brown) – The Brown Shirts Charge
Discussion: The target is accused of subscribing to an intolerant, extremist ideology or of being devoted to an ignorant viewpoint. Examples:
* “You’re one of those right-wing wackos.”
* “You’re an extremist”
* “You sound like the KKK.”
* “… more anti-feminist zaniness”
Response: One should remember that the truth is not decided by the number of people subscribing to it. Whether or not certain ideas are “out of the mainstream” is besides the point. A correct conclusion is also not necessarily reached by embracing some middle ground between two opposing viewpoints (i.e., the logical fallacy of “False Compromise”).
This is why men’s movement must steer clear of any cooperation whatsoever with racist, white supremacist, black separatist, and other such movements. It must be made clear that you can perfectly well be socialist, liberal, green &c and support men’s movement, because feminists are totalitarians and antidemocrats.
We are not the extremists. They are.
September 19, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Lee
Nazis were conservatives. Get an education, con boy.
October 7, 2012 at 11:53 am
Bifocal
No Lee, the Nazis were fascists; anti-liberal, anti-communist, anti-conservative. Get an education dumb-girl.
September 4, 2014 at 6:24 am
Christian Taylor
Nazis are socialists. They had more in common with Soviets than the typical American liberal. The political spectrum is circular, rather than linear. Nazis and Soviets were not polar opposites. Many communists joined the Nazi Party because of their anti-Capitalist positions. Hitler called them “beefsteak Nazis, brown on the outside (Brownshirts of the early Nazi days) and pink on the inside (pink as in communist).
June 5, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Bill Smith
Accusers confess
October 23, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Sam
Ermmm, I have never heard these things being said by any feminists I know. Most feminists I know are quite assertive and would not use generalisations or personal attack as an argument style. It is a movement against patriarchy, not men. Patriarchy affects both men and women, but unfortunately it means that more women than men are unable to fulfil their potential/assume positions of power. If you have come accross feminists who use the above attacks, I suggest that they are just not very good at debate as individuals/are not very nice people. I don’t think it is to do with their feminism.
January 17, 2010 at 2:29 am
g.reener
I totally agree with you.
February 7, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Akhi 99
I have heard these things all of my life by feminists I know and those I am less familiar with. Most feminists I know prefer negative generalizations for men while espousing positive ones for women. The feminists I know think they are “assertive” and everyone else is “aggressive”.
Men’s rights activism is a movement against matriarchy, not women. Matriarchy affects both women and men, but unfortunately it means that more men than women are unable to fulfill their potential/assume positions of power (in spheres of power that mean a lot to men but are largely ignored).
It may make a big difference to the national Organization for Women (NOW) whether or not a woman has been president, but it may be a bigger deal to the average guy that he can merely be given a fair hearing in divorce or custody court and not have the unspoken sexism against men continue where women are assumed to be the natural child rearers and men are assumed to be socially inept at childcare.
A guy may care more if he is treated in an equal fashion by the police who show up at his door cuz his wife was screaming at the top of her lungs and he goes to jail when she was the physical aggressor cuz the police, prosecutors and judges have sexist notions towards men that we are the more violent of the species.
I’d like not to be treated like an average of my gender, but as an individual. Judge me based upon how I act, not how millions of men act.
I have met innumerable feminists who not only use these dirty debate tactics, they seem to prefer them to cordial dialogue where all viewpoints are considered equally valid.
Feminists seem to focus all their concern on the area of power where women are weak, and ignore all the areas where men are weak and then say women have it worse.
Feminists like to compare the amount of traditional women’s work that men do around the house while refusing to acknowledge the work men traditionally do around the house.
It may be true that if you ignore the bad things that men face, that what women face can always be shown to be worse, but that is not a fair comparison.
It may be possible to look myopically at overall pay, make the assumption that women do equal work, and then claim discrimination without a shred of proof while ignoring that 93% of all workplace deaths are the gender that most likely to be portrayed as the favored gender (men).
On the planet that I live, equal work is equally dangerous, not much much less so.
The day that women are injured or die on the job in equal numbers to men is the day I will take claims of pay discrimination for women seriously (as I used to in my brainwashed state having been raised by a lesbian feminist).
Stop blaming the victim cuz this is where those nice “assertive” feminists go next when their lies are pointed out to them in detail too hard to hide, cuz blaming men is the next step. If men die sooner than women, that cannot possibly be a form of oppression men face, according to most feminists I have ever encountered. If men die at work totally out of proportion of their representation in the work force, that cannot be perceived as a form of oppression worthy of the attention of any powerful feminist organization even though most feminists claim the feminists merely want to establish equality between the sexes.
Feminist hypocrisy has been exposed for what it is and though it has not lost all its steam yet, the matriarchy has reared its head and an be criticized even if it hurts the ever so sensitive gender warrior who claims to be so powerful.
One of the things I like to ask is, “why are supposedly strong and assertive women so afraid of strong men?”
And a new slogan I just made up that can be shared is, “Her body; he has no CHOICE”.
Back in the day, a man’s labor was his and could not be stolen by anyone without his consent (just as a woman’s body ought to be sacred and hers to control). Fast forward to the present and men have nearly no parental rights, especially in the case of unplanned pregnancy. Women have lots of options and men have NONE. But who cares, “Her body; he has no CHOICE”.
June 25, 2011 at 8:32 am
Anonymous
A mans choice to in planned parenting: don’t sleep around!
December 10, 2011 at 4:08 am
C
Did you really just say that feminism is the reason men have a shorter life expectancy than women?
October 16, 2012 at 8:16 pm
??
isn;t it great. men die early because of the T in the system, but no, lets blame it on feminism for forcing those men to take hard jobs and make risky behaviors…. Apparently no MRA has opened a biology book.
and matriarchy isn’t a simplistic linear hierarchy like patriarchy is. Matriarchy is a complex intergrated hierarchy (like a honey comb or spider web). open a book. do some research.
Children are given to the mother more often because being with her wouldn’t screw the child’s life up. they already know their doctors, dentist, teachers and babysitter’s names. They already know their school schedule, activitie schedule, they know their friends names. They know what they are alergic to or what they are deficient in. they do their laungdry and make sure their homework is done, that they are fed and in bed on time. The parent who does that would LOGICALLY be the best fit for the child. most men would rather die than put themselves in the lesser position of staying at home and raising the children. They’d rather have their freedom and choice of paid work.
“screaming at the top of your lungs” ISN’T PHYSICAL it’s VERBAL.
so the traditional female work of doing dishes, cooking meals, grocery shopping, sweeping, mopping, vaccuuming, dusting, washing clothes, scrubbing sinks, washing windows, ironing, washing counters, along with all the child rearing vs taking out the trash, mowing the lawn…. there’s a reason tradition male work is “ignored”.
again, no one forced those men into position in a job that would risk their life. They chose to be in that profession and the risks involved in it.
Equal work is equally dangerous? what point are you trying to make here? that we should make women take these jobs that men CHOOSE to take so that the equal work deaths will somehow show equality. this is illogical. People choose the work that they do. Men could have chosen that secretary job over that factory job, or teaching instead of being a cop, but they didn’t. they chose the job knowing the risks.
women’s will never die in equal numbers to men because women UNDERSTAND COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
Again, open a biology book and educate yourself on the male species and you’ll get your answer as to why they die sooner.
back in the day men’s labor couldn’t be stolen because he had the privelege of owning other human beings.
women’s bodies weren’t sacred or controlled by themselve but by the men who bought them from their father. They were raped by their husbands. It’s only been recently that a woman has an actual legal right to her body because it is no longer her husbands property to do as he pleases. so yea, after thousands of years of being owned and controlled woman finally can have power and control of THEIR OWN BODY, the HORROR. How DARE they take your ownership away from you. How DARE they make it so that you can’t make the ultimate decision over other human beings as if you owned them. the lunacy of it. Men complain about not having a chioce in pregnancy because they hate the idea of not having power over others.
BACK IN THE DAY Men owned their wives and they owned the children that their wives birthed (branding the children with their last name as they did when they brought african americans into slavery) to show ownership. If the husband wanted to leave the marriage he had every freedom to do so, plus he automatically got the chidlren. After all, they were HIS property. Maybe you shoudl read a history book. BACK IN THE DAY 100% of father kept their chidlren (not that they raised them, they left that to the nannies or other females in the family) If I could be a father (work all day around adults, facing adult challenges, and getting paid to do so, coming home from work and sitting in front of the tv while I’m served because “i’ve had a long day” burden the mother with ALL responsibilities of childrearing but when it’s time to play ball I’m more than available”- who wouldn’t want to be a father in this time period.
May 26, 2013 at 4:20 am
John
Dude, you’re not fighting against the matriarchy you’re fighting against the patriarchy too, but at the points where it fails for men. You know how feminists say that the patriarchy hurts women AND men? You know men created that myth that women are natural childbearers and rearers. All of the things you pointed out, divorce issues, discrimination, etc. are all points where the patriarchy fails. Women didn’t set those laws into place. Women never fought to keep men out of the daycare centers, etc. ever, and they didn’t set the laws of divorce. Men did. Who created that idea that men are stronger and more violent than women? Men. And logic too. Granted, a woman should never hit her spouse and it’s wrong, but if he hits back you know he’s probably going to do more damage to her than she does to him. Men also commit more crimes at more serious levels than women. Can’t just sweep that under the rug. Also, mens’ deaths at the workplace have nothing to do with discrimination and that really should have no effect on what should be equal pay if a woman’s doing the same job. You’re just trying to cover up a thing that already exists and acting like its women’s fault so you don’t have to own up to it. This country has always been a patriarchy, you can’t just cover the patriarchy’s flaws by calling them matriarchy and leaving it at that. You make some good points, ignoring the parts about the matriarchy and the bits about more men dying on the job and somehow that extends to all jobs and payrolls apparently. And why are you so mad about a woman owning her body? “Her body; he has no CHOICE”. You’ve made yourself sound like a rapist. No man should ever have full control over a woman’s body, and vice versa. How about “His body; she has no CHOICE”. Does that soothe your butthurt?
August 13, 2014 at 3:07 pm
fabrizzo
??,u and your sociopathic mentality are very good reasons why there are even men who hate women,and for such a reason they have nothing to be ashamed of.I cant even bring myself to get started on the multitutes of wrongs u have insinuated.
John,u are a mangina,and u ought to be ashamed.Did the said accusant give u a blow by blow description of a rape sequence and declare to u that he did it?If not,how in fuck’s name can he sound like a rapist?More likely,u sound like an idiot faggot who has exchanged his dick for a pussy.
I wont say any further about u 2 social lowlives,cos u dont deserve it
April 22, 2011 at 9:08 am
Will Wallace LA
Classic NLTOF (not like those other feminists) tack. If you empathize and support, you are complicit, period. The overt radicals hide behind the covert radicals and vice versa. In an explicitly conspiratorial way, it’s all a sophisticated and manipulative collective morph game with a singular end result- Jim Crow discrimination against men. Just look at the facts sir. Look at the laws. Look at the rulings. Look at the schools. Look at the deaths and dismemberments, and the suicides and homeless. Look at the jobs and the opportunities and the layoffs. Look at the affirmative discrimination. Look at the reality.
February 4, 2009 at 9:58 am
Rasmus Sorber
Sam: This concerns women and gynocentral males alike. Not just feminists.
To be honest, I’ve heard Code Red, Blue, Green, Orange, Purple, Brown, Lavender and Gray in just ONE recent discussion with a woman.
February 18, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Chilerkle
If these tactics were used against ethnic groups instead of the male gender the outcry would be thunderous. I don’t think this is fair to men or anyone else who is being oppressed!
March 7, 2011 at 12:05 pm
wallace
I hear you. Many years ago I came across that lovely
phrase; “Men, They’re All The Same”, and I wondered how that attitude would play in the ‘hood’. Although, I guess all of the liberal, bent over backwards ‘whiteys’ would just suck up the guilt, (that keeps the obsolete Cornell W. at Princeton), when it comes our way.
You would think any movement based on hatred is doomed to fail, and it has for the most part, leaving the radical/psycho cases that have either died (Dworkin, Daley,…), or become over-zealous prosecuting D.A.’s.
This reference to the legislative and judiciary is indicative of where the detritus remains. And that will take quite some time to clean up. And that apparently is going to be womyns work
April 9, 2009 at 5:34 pm
John R. Gossett
Great site. If there were a hundred more sites on the web it still wouldnt be enough. The matriarchy controls the media and most men I am sorry to say. 90% of the men in this country have no clue and have been completely propagandized by the huge and awsome power of this group extending into the media, education, church, government and neighborhood.
This is actually a moral problem and much of the blame does not lie with the feminist or women but things completely outside man’s power to effect. The socialization and industrialization of the 19th century including the rise of the Victorian ethic has created and developed this and has emasculated men in a spiritual way long before the feminism we are familiar with came on the scene. Along with this the final blow of the free love movement of the 60’s and the long standing effects of the resulting break up the family and the whole idea of traditional gender roles and you start to get a picture of what we are dealing with and it really goes deeper than this.
Some of these anti-misandry web sites are not actually getting to the root of the problem and end up making the problem worse by their vulgarity and rudeness to women in a way that is not contstructive. For instance Rich Zubaty has incredible ideas and a genius in this subject but he neutralizes his effectiveness by his vulgarity and rudness to women and others even though he insists this is necessary to keep his audience. Thanks for site and courage to speak the truth!
July 23, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Silvio Koerich
Hey man thanks for this. I’m translating to portuguese and i’ll give credits and links for both sites yours and menforjustice.
Keep this site up man, we need you.
cheers
August 13, 2009 at 7:22 am
Toads
Please add Roissy to your blogroll.
http://roissy.wordpress.com
August 17, 2009 at 8:12 am
Exposing Feminism
Roissy is already there under the heading ‘Marriage Strike’, Toads.
August 26, 2009 at 4:09 am
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September 8, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Mrs. Pilgrim
Charge of Superficiality (Code Gold) – The All-That-Glitters Charge
Discussion: The charge of superficiality is usually hurled at men with regard to their mating preferences. Examples:
* “If you didn’t go after bimbos, then …”
* “How can you be so shallow and turn down a single mother?”
Response: Average-looking women can be just as problematic in their behavior as beautiful, “high-maintanence” women. Regarding the shallowness of women, popular media furnishes plenty of examples where petty demands are made of men by females (viz., those notorious laundry lists of things a man should/should not do for his girlfriend or wife).
I hate to say it, but…yes, men who get themselves in the position of being misused and abused as often ask for it as women do.
How, you ask? By seeking the wrong things. Some guys seem to expect Christian behaviors from women they demand not be Christian.
Think about it, gents: If you demanded that your girlfriend sleep with you before you even considered making her an offer of marriage, then you rather precluded the traditional-minded woman (and in case you didn’t know it, premarital virginity is part and parcel with the “traditional” mindset of respecting one’s man and being his help). Did you get a feminist for a girlfriend? Whaddaya know, it was feminists who pushed the notion that one can only be liberated by sleeping around.
I say this not to shame you or silence you, but to point out that what you shop for is often what you’ll find. Try understanding the kind of woman who would make you happy, and I daresay you’ll enjoy better success in the hunt for the Great White Picket Fence. (And fewer girls will buy into the feminist garbage!)
And for pity’s sake, don’t reject an argument just because you THINK someone might be trying to “shame” you. It’s a womany attitude. (And by the by, if something someone says makes you feel ashamed, there might just possibly be a good reason for it…)
September 26, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Nergal
“I say this not to shame you or silence you, but to point out that what you shop for is often what you’ll find. Try understanding the kind of woman who would make you happy, and I daresay you’ll enjoy better success in the hunt for the Great White Picket Fence. (And fewer girls will buy into the feminist garbage!)”
This woman is just as bad as the feminists. See below:
“And for pity’s sake, don’t reject an argument just because you THINK someone might be trying to “shame” you. It’s a womany attitude. (And by the by, if something someone says makes you feel ashamed, there might just possibly be a good reason for it…)”
Here we have the call to “man up”,code lavender shaming language , within an article on shaming language. This statement is ignorant in the extreme as no one said to reject an argument simply because it follows one of these predictable patterns or contains what seem to be the standard ad hominem-infused talking points of feminism, only that the arguments themselves are not valid proof of the feminist ideology’s veracity,i.e., more proof is required than ad hominem attacks to win the debate, Mrs. Pilgrim is burning a straw man here, in essence.
Another point, these statements do not make an MRA feel ashamed, rather, they are intended to do so, so that the MRA stops arguing proof of his own oppression to the feminist or feminists, his oppressors. It is a common political trick “either you are with us, or you are against us” or “you are on the side of good, or you are on the side of evil” but in the case of feminists,manginas, and their so-called “traditional women” accomplices it is “either you are with us, or you are a small-dicked loser who is gay,can’t get laid, is ugly, lives in his parent’s basement,has ‘issues with women’,beats his wife and is a sissy”. The fact that these positions contradict each other in many cases alone is enough that a rational man will see them for the cheap grab for power that they are, power over the entire gender debate, which brings us back to Mrs. Pilgrim,and the irony laid before us. That her shaming language has been allowed to go unanswered even here is frankly surprising, but indeed it was intended to fly under the radar,no doubt.
I am a man,ma’am, I have always been a man, even when I was a boy I was capable of rolling with the punches, of getting knocked down and getting back up and fighting some more. That is why I will tell you now that a woman has no place telling a man how to be a man. If you have that much free time to be able to come on to a men’s site and attempt to instruct men how to assert themselves you are either a very efficient housewife or your husband and/or children are not being properly taken care of by you. I would say the latter.
June 9, 2011 at 1:27 am
Anonymous
Mrs. Pilgrim your one of the few good apples in the orchard.. However most of the women you sit with in church on Sunday are not.. Don’t blame the men, men are meeting the same woman in different bodies over and over and over again. Men are waking up and finding the causes and a big one is Feminism.
September 15, 2009 at 12:07 am
Exposing Feminism
October 27, 2009 at 9:00 pm
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November 18, 2009 at 3:11 pm
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December 2, 2011 at 12:00 am
Chris Miller
People are entitled to respect fairness, however.
Women who fault men for that, are clearly claiming hard-wired female inferiority, by holding men to a higher standard than they hold themselves– thus insinuating that men should simply treat women as inferiors, rather than appeal to their sense of equal fairness (which is a show of “weakness”).
Here, such women live by a VERY convenient set of standards, ranging from the law of justice to the law of the jungle as they please.
November 22, 2009 at 1:07 pm
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December 6, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Noel J. Rod
I question what I read. This is a logical and critical subject. I’ve been blinded by so many biased girls. I’m positive now more than ever. I’m interested in sex and my future and this is something I was meant to read! Thank you!!!!
Sincerely: Noel
December 7, 2009 at 11:12 am
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December 12, 2009 at 11:04 am
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January 23, 2010 at 6:08 am
theblanque
Ermmm, I have never heard these things being said by any feminists I know.
Don’t believe you.
January 23, 2010 at 6:11 am
theblanque
We need a new category–“he failed his children” category.
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/the-medicalization-of-maleness/#comment-153469
January 24, 2010 at 7:35 pm
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[…] In addition to the shaming language to get the husband to buy the house, there is also a great deal of misandry in this video. This is a case of the housing bubble and the misandry bubble overlapping. The husband was right to be skeptical. This commercial aired in 2006. If the couple was really worried about schools, they could have waited two years (when their oldest was starting kindergarten) and saved a boatload of money. Even better they could have rented waiting out the housing bubble in the location with the schools they wanted. However, it was more important to make the husband fall in line despite the fact that he was originally right. With the misandry bubble, shaming language is nothing new as we have the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics. […]
February 10, 2010 at 12:16 pm
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March 5, 2010 at 2:16 am
Wellard Manning
You guys are hilarious. I am a guy, and I basically support in principle your opinion, that feminism has gone too far and the role for males has been reconstructed in a fashion that is not appropriate.
But seriously, what are you doing? Arguing with feminists? You think you are going to change the opinion of a bunch of man hating crazies?
Look at Harriet Harman. Now, I really don’t like Harriet Harman. I think the world would be a better place if she did not exist as for some reason, she thinks that the best way to make things better for women is to diminish men. So what can we learn from her?
Did she sit around and argue with a bunch of chauvinists? Probably a couple of times for giggles and what not, but what she did is become a bigwig lawyer/politician basically just so she can destroy men. She screwed us with the system. So why not become MPs and undo her psychotic crazyness?
Oh and you should guilt trip the women too, where is the media stories and adverts of the poor guy who gets dumped by welfare whore so she can get the council house, watching Harriet Harman lookalike on TV saying “men aren’t necessary for a family” (she said something like that, it isn’t word for word, use her exact word) and then off he trots to look at the dust bin, throws away the dad scarf and bumper sticker he bought then kills himself.
And that’s just guilt. Where is your use of media? Feminism is all over media, you guys are sitting down the pub arguing with some psycho dykes who are about as likely to change their views as the grand wizard of the KKK to join the NAACP.
Action soldiers! It’s a war out there, get your clever hats on and batten down the trenches. There are key positions of power you need people in and… you have nobody there, the feminists have snipers and machine gunners in a good and great many, you move, you’re dead. Better find some places where you can get a good shot from yourselves, maybe a feminist has it right now, maybe it’s one they missed. But you need some positions. This blog is hilarious, but it’s a Palestinian rocket man vs the might of Israel. You need new tactics.
February 27, 2011 at 2:05 am
Kratch
I realize this response is rather late, but i just felt the need to add it…
Wellard Manning’s post demonstrates another argument I often see coming out of feminists mouth’s (even if Manning himself isn’t a feminist)… and that is “if you think there is a problem, go out and become somebody important and do something about it and stop wasting your time on the internet”… I see this as a ploy to try and get men to be quiet. It is not easy or cheap to go out and lobby, let alone become a politician… especially when your viewpoint garners the type of response often encountered by anyone speaking up for men. And so speaking on the internet and spreading the message, convincing readers (if not the accusers themselves, as it is not just feminist sites, but anywhere, even facebook message boards where this shaming language is found http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=60266912006&topic=14674 ) and letting people know there are issues, can help change popular opinion over time. That was generally the point of protests, and now it is simply being done a little quieter, but to a much larger audience, via the internet.
October 16, 2012 at 8:25 pm
??
It’s not easy or cheap?? and you think the feminist movement was a walk in the park? you actually think women shouted “We want equality”!! and the men were like “of course, here you go, why did you ask sooner?” It is not a ploy to get men to be quiet it seems quite the opposite. Quit bitching and DO something about it. Don’t wait around for someone else to fight your battles.
December 2, 2011 at 12:18 am
Chris Miller
“But seriously, what are you doing? Arguing with feminists? You think you are going to change the opinion of a bunch of man hating crazies?”
Ok, no one is “arguing with feminists,” but rather EXPOSING their arguments as pure PSY-OPS propoganda to break down male resolve.
Feminism chiefly operates by breaking down male resolve, since they really can’t influence men any other way; they can’t MAKED men marry them, impregnate them, give them things, or anything else.
So they MANIPULATE men by various psychological tricks to break down their resolve and otherwise mess with their minds, to make them do what they want; and unless men are prepared, they WILL fall prey to such mind-games.
We don’t have to change their opinion, but only RECOGNIZE the evil that it represents– and BE PREPARED, so as not to be manipulated by it.
It’s a FACT that the only remaining form of slavery, is alimony and child-support; and the only way that private property can be taken is through divorce. In this manner, the law can AND WILL rob, enslave and imprison men; they can take everything you own, and put you in jail if you feel that “you didn’t try hard enough” to pay your alimony and child-support quotas.
Likewise, women will use mind-games to get you to give them things, and do things for them; and that’s just as effective as the law, if it causes you to do what they want against your own better interest and free choice.
In short, we are at WAR with women via feminism– ; and we have to REALIZE that feminists are the ENEMY.
The only question is: DO YOU WANT TO LOSE, OR WIN?
And I don’t think I’m being too dramatic in this; I’ve SEEN friends lose their kids to abusive psycho ex-wives in divorce, AND seen them put in jail because they simply didn’t have the money that the court SAID they “should” be making… and the judge said “I guess we just to put you in jail to need to motivate you to find ways to get it.”
If that’s not war, I’d hate to see it.
And the best way to lose a war, is to deny it exists.
September 19, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Lee
I think you guys are just sore, bitter, lazy losers who are seriously in the closet. Look in the mirror for the hate and anger, boys. Oh, and grow up, dears.
September 30, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Bifocal
Why is it only feminists posting in the last 6 months? No males? Why is the men’s movement so weak and febrile? Are we not men? (Devo)
As you say Chris Miller are we being browbeaten by deceit and hypocrisy to the point of exhaustion or are we just too bloody bewildered by female irrationalism to continue the fight for the male virtues of civilisation, honesty, loyalty and dignity? (Just watch these qualities become defiled by future Fem-Bloggers.)
I’ve been watching feminism usurp their real mandate for the last forty years and I really do not see any difference between Feminism and all the other historical political ideologies: From Lenin to Maoism, Trotsky to Pol Pot; apart from the lack of having an armed militia, the propaganda and nihilistic determinism of feminism is no different from any previous male-invented hegemony.
The one strategy that feminism has against its enemy (men) even today, is that women flock together while men stand alone. Malehood is rewarded by being the dominant bull, ram, stallion; the alpha male gets all the females and the rest of the male population gets put out to pasture.
Just look at the criticism those vicious bitches are giving us. It is all about taking the pussy elsewhere. That is all they have to fight us with.
If we males were to become more selective about who we fertilised, we could change this myopic inbreeding of gynophiles for feminist ideology. They frequently rant anonymously against associating with the likes of us; then let us stop being driven by our testicles for awhile, stop behaving like stud cattle and start behaving responsibly.
There will always be women wanting our seed, let us take stock of our sexual/procreative needs and start limiting our dispersal, the planet is already overpopulated: Do you really need five children?
Considering that all human genes are directly related to each other in the 4th cousin sense, do we really want to perpetuate this legal child welfare nightmare for the next century?
Be a man and keep your seed for a woman you can really trust.
March 8, 2010 at 6:28 am
A response to Susan Walsh « Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] a reason the catalog of anti-male shaming tactics exists. It’s because we hear the same things over and over again from women on these issues. […]
March 10, 2010 at 3:42 am
Haters: BANNED by Susan Walsh « Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] political aspect, as is often the case with MRA types, in my experience.” This of course is code tan shaming language. (Susan Walsh did try to claim she really didn’t mean that not getting laid is the only […]
April 11, 2010 at 1:56 am
Lolwhut
Mrs. Pilgrim
What miss pilgrim said. You are all going to have sex with eachother so both sides need to be quiet and wear a condom.
Also, stay on the pill.
April 24, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Haters: Lady Raine Fails Miserably « Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] Lady Raine. While she obviously worked hard at copying and pasting from the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics and making sure there was no original thought in her misandarist screed, she forgot to tell me that […]
April 25, 2010 at 4:13 pm
White Nationalism? More like White Knight Nationalism
[…] is nothing but garden variety anti-male shaming language. However, that doesn’t beat what a White Nationalist woman has to say: Lock-load is an […]
April 27, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Shaming Language: How to beat it. « Don’t Marry
[…] We all are familiar with the tactic of “Shaming Language.” […]
April 30, 2010 at 10:01 am
Misandry In The Depopulation Agenda Conspiracy Theory
[…] fixed the divorce system or created incentives for men to marry. Instead they use more and more shaming language. Since progressively using more and more shaming language isn’t have the effect they want […]
April 30, 2010 at 9:17 pm
The Spearhead: Misandry In The Depopulation Agenda Conspiracy Theory » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] fixed the divorce system or created incentives for men to marry. Instead they use more and more shaming language. Since progressively using more and more shaming language isn’t have the effect they want […]
May 5, 2010 at 2:34 am
Still Not Getting It « Omega Virgin Revolt
[…] THEM, THEIR ATTEMPTS AT DESTROYING MY LIFE, AND THEIR HYPOCRISY. It’s that simple and no anti-male shaming tactic changes that fact. Comments RSS […]
May 19, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Banned From Hookingupsmart For No Reason « Omega Virgin Revolt
[…] Banned From Hookingupsmart For No Reason Filed Under: Uncategorized by white and nerdy — Leave a comment May 19, 2010 In another example of how virgin men are get attacked without basis, I have been banned from the blog Hookingupsmart. I rarely post there and hadn’t posted a single comment there in over a day and a half and all of a sudden, I’m some sort of problem there. I tried posting a rational and reasoned response, but I kept getting a error which means I have been banned. You can read the comments about me. It’s real convienent that they can say what they want about me, but I can’t defend myself. Their comments are baseless since they come from the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics. […]
June 6, 2010 at 1:59 am
Code Maroon and Code Pink « Omega Virgin Revolt
[…] first was by reformed_tomboy and the second was by sox. Both are code maroon shaming tactics. The second adds a code pink shaming tactic. Code Pink is the threat of withheld affection. The standard response is, “This is an […]
June 17, 2010 at 3:50 am
Dave from Hawaii the Conspiracy Theorist Mangina « Omega Virgin Revolt
[…] The Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics […]
June 24, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Druk
Wellard, the point isn’t to change the opinion of a bunch of man-hating crazies. The point is to get the average person who actually listens to logic, especially the average man, to stop believing their man-hating craziness.
Also to repeal the ridiculous laws (and judicial decisions) that are the result of their man-hating psychotic craziness.
September 19, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Lee
Who do you hate more, boy, the idiotic father who wasn’t man enough to raise you properly, or the mother who wouldn’t ever lift a finger to save you from that abusive monster? LOL
October 6, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Anonymous
Lee, maybe you should go play in I-95 traffic.
August 13, 2014 at 3:27 pm
fabrizzo
The only monster i see here is u,and perhaps those monsters of a father and mother who created the likes of u.May your whole family burn in hell for eternity,lest humanity falls in harm’s way by your hands.And stop calling yourself lee,u are a disgrace to anyone by that surname,who are many by the way,and all wonderful people,well at least nothing like u.
March 9, 2015 at 10:56 pm
fatemaster1
Actually I hate the idiotic woman who wasn’t woman enough to raise me properly. Yes, that’s right woman, as in my abusive step-mother, didn’t see that one coming, did you Lee?
November 3, 2015 at 5:36 am
Jim
Lee, I can only guess you’re being sarcastic, because each one of your posts actually demonstrates the methods documented on this blog!
LOL
November 23, 2015 at 4:45 pm
Anonymous
You are a piece of shit. I’ve seen you do nothing but slander men. Is this what you do. Get on a site for men and bitch. I’m sure your the bitter one, stop.being a femanazi and get a life. You are a part of the problem, women and people in general who talk like you is why ther are hostility.
July 1, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Did feminism ruin relationships between men and women? - Dating, marriage, boyfriends, girlfriends, men, women, friends, attraction ... - Page 108 - City-Data Forum
[…] and it makes them have "icky" feelings. Their social programming is to just lash out with emotionally charged language (women are good at this), but thanks to the internet men are catching on. In other words you're […]
July 8, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Facilitating Shaming Language » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] Late at night in a dark alley? So if you go to The Spearhead you might get mugged like if you were alone late at night in a dark alley???? I have never even heard of someone getting mugged over the internet but I guess there’s a first time for everything. If you have been reading this blog for a while you should recognize this immediately as code orange shaming language. […]
July 11, 2010 at 2:38 pm
A Credibility Problem » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] the words, “feel”, and “there is a sense”. This is the hallmark of code orange shaming language, that the target is accused of being a menace in some undefined manner. Where is the hard […]
July 11, 2010 at 7:11 pm
An E-Mail From Susan Walsh » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] her blog but expects to post here with impunity. When she doesn’t get her way she slings shaming language at me. Truthfully she doesn’t want an actual debate because that would involve burning the […]
July 20, 2010 at 5:32 pm
The Spearhead: The Repetitive Nature Of Shaming Language » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] do my detractors respond? With even more shaming language. This is not an atypical response. The Exposing Feminism blog which hosts a copy of the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics received a similar response to the catalog from women that was also even more shaming […]
July 30, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Rick C
Interesting post. The only thing I would point out is that “Response: One may point out that feminists and many other women make generalizations about men. Quotations from feminists, for example, can be easily obtained to prove this point. ” is a form of tu quoque.
August 6, 2010 at 8:24 am
JOHN ELLIOTT
My memories of some of the feminist women at University were: women who made homophobic comments about gay males, but would be having affairs with both men and women themselves. Eventually they would support campaigns about ‘rape’ and women being battered. Posters would be displayed on the walls of their offices that were clearly anti-male: metal rods being stuck through the male urethra with the justification that men did not suffer menstruation and sanitary methods as women had to. Some very hostile people at times.
August 8, 2010 at 1:50 am
Paranoia In The Extreme « Omega Virgin Revolt
[…] The Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics […]
August 28, 2010 at 6:17 pm
It’s Time To Stop This » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] review what code purple shaming language is: Charge of Rationalization (Code Purple) – The Sour Grapes […]
September 25, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Some New Categories Of Shaming Language » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] not new categories of shaming language, just newly defined. Regardless they should be added the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Language. You can thank manboobz for inspiring this post since he used them […]
September 28, 2010 at 9:25 pm
manboobz
Stop whining about “shaming language” like a bunch of damn babies!
http://manboobz.blogspot.com/2010/09/aint-that-shaming-tactic.html
December 2, 2011 at 12:32 am
Chris Miller
manboobz
“Stop whining about “shaming language” like a bunch of damn babies!”
Wow, how many colors are we flying here?
So you’re saying that women so inferior and irrational, that they can’t help what they say– and so men shouldn’t care.
I disagree– I think women should be treated as equals. And just as that means RESPECTING them as equals, it means expecting equal respect in return FROM them.
And that’s a MATURE attitude, not “babies.”
This talk about “whining” also calls men “weak” for refusing to tolerate disrespect; I also disagree, since it takes more strength to complain about a legitimate grievance than to suffer in silence and tolerate injustice.
November 10, 2012 at 9:27 pm
stonedsquirrel
ha love that, your argument? is about petty arguments being scoffed at?! lol tit. ur the biggest one of all.. congrads!
September 29, 2010 at 4:23 pm
My addition to the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics
[…] both by Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech’s additions to the Catalog and the discussion on this post at Dennis Mangan’s blog, I’ve defined a new type of […]
October 6, 2010 at 11:55 am
andrew
All good stuff…. I don’t have problems anymore with feminism, one reason is that its a good idea to laugh at them and as the old saying goes ‘the devil cannot stand to be mocked’ it really works feminists hate it when u laugh at them.
I say that feminism is an excuse for lazy women who don’t like doing housework. If you go round to a feminists house u can guarantee they won’t have done any washing up for a week. Men can be grateful to feminism for with out it we would never have learned to wash up or switch on a hoover, and would either have to get our mothers to visit us everyday or try and get a new girl friend every day just to do the dishes. They wouldn’t of course so our places would be just filled with unwashed dishes.
Feminism begins and ends with gross generalisations and if you argue back they start off with ‘women this women that etc etc blah blah’ therebye putting you in a position of being anti-woman if u discuss things. What it reminds me of is the Nazis who stated that if u dislike nazis then you are anti-German. By claiming to speak for all women they show themselves to have a totalitarian mindset.
Another thing that draws the poison is neo paganism, which i started reading about awhile back. Most feminists will understand paganism, which includes Wicca witchcraft etc and what paganism says is that there is a God and a Goddess and they are both EQUAL, Isis and Osiris Freya and Odin etc etc u get the idea. Paganism reveres the feminine and the Masculine Deity. I recently told a feminist that I used to be a male feminist but i learned differently and changed my views. she asked why and I answered after discovering Goddess Spirituality she had no answer what so ever!
An interesting idea/ conspiracy theory and which is relatively new is that modern feminism was encouraged by corporate capitalism , you’ll notice how much time is given over to discussions about womens in top jobs etc so they can get paid more to buy stuff that they don’t need and which they are persuaded to buy by advertising (which uses feminism in case u haven’t noticed!)
Alongside this, is the idea that feminism has been encouraged in order to break up relationships and to make them more difficult to get in the first place. The reason for this is that lonely, lovelorn people are anxious and unhappy and seek comfort through consumerism and high spending.
What is sinister is how deeply feminism has sunk into establishment and media opinion moulders. An example of this is a recent programme on the BBC radio 4 (British ‘highbrow’ radio) called Moral Maze. There was a discussion about rape/ consent amongst young men and women. There were 3 men on the panal and 1 woman. The men were all taking the feminist ‘all men are rapists’ line and the woman was saying that things are not that clear-cut and when drink, inexperience and other factors
are taken into account the reasons are not always that straight forward. The 3 men accused this 1 woman of having a ‘male perspective’ which was meant as a put-down. They really couldn’t see the irony in waht they were saying or the situation as it was in their studio.
What does worry me is the negative effect that it has on young boys, teenagers and young adults. Several generations now who havre grown up not knowing how to relate to each other in a sharing and loving way, The younger men are the victims of this but i think it has a destructive effect on the girls too. Again i believe the effect is to encourage people to become high consumers to compensate for the unhappiness that they feel
December 2, 2011 at 12:35 am
Chris Miller
andrew
“All good stuff…. I don’t have problems anymore with feminism, one reason is that its a good idea to laugh at them and as the old saying goes ‘the devil cannot stand to be mocked’ it really works feminists hate it when u laugh at them.”
The devil doesn’t mind being mocked, if he has the last laugh when he gets your SOUL.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing– and if you chuckle to yourself, then that’s LESS than nothing.
We need to EXPOSE this culture-war by feminists against men, and take a stand– a line MUST be drawn!
October 18, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Will you people please stop paying attention to this assclown?
[…] Tech wrote him up as a hater. That post lead to another one where he made some additions to the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics, which inspired me to come up with my own addition, so PM/AFT gets off. Next, Rob Fedders of the NO […]
November 16, 2010 at 11:46 am
Giorgio
I agree for most, but let me say, that the shaming tecniques, are the same used by mysogines (sorry for my bad spalling, but english is not my native language) against usually women and gay’s.
But yes generally I agree, feminism has a wery bad reputation, not only by men but also between women. They are seen as male haters and lunatic, with is also partially true. I say partially true, because feminism is composed by various movements who are different and sometimes they even oppose each other. Not all feminist’s agree on the so called anti male agenda and other support them vocally. So carefull claiming that all feminist are the same, I for one dont want to make the same mistake they do.
Anyways, I am skeptic about the male’s right movement, because, gathering together AGAINST the other gender, is not a masculine behaviour (nb feminist’s) I would rather have a pure egalitarian movement who also rapresent men, and dont demonice us. That would be a crushing defeat for feminism, because to many of them would leave in favor for a real egalitarian movement.
Just my two cent’s. but anyway uintil we dont have a egalitarian organisation I support your cause.
Greetings.
March 19, 2011 at 3:47 am
Matthew
“Gathering against another gender is not a masculine behavior”
Do this count as a shaming tactics?
May 7, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Teres Major
“Gathering against another gender is not a masculine behavior”
“Do this count as a shaming tactics?”
Absolutely. Although, I feel that in this case, it may have been unintentional. Still, it is a shaming tactic. It really is the beauty of this list. It’s so accessible.
December 5, 2010 at 5:44 am
An Example Of Why “You MRAs/MGTOW Hate Women” Is Garbage « Omega Virgin Revolt
[…] The Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics […]
February 20, 2011 at 7:29 am
List of logical fallacies / rhetorical devices employed during argument
[…] […]
February 23, 2011 at 5:57 am
Snowflake doesn’t want me to talk trash about church girls. | Riding with the King
[…] are men so sensitive? both from men and from others. Mostly? They fear rejection from male role models, their Dads, […]
February 23, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Attempting To Silence Men » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] away women and other moderates who support us”. (“Scary” language is code orange shaming language, and “scaring away moderates” is used so much it should become it’s own category […]
February 24, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Cecil Westervelt
So many damned apologist. They refuse to hear that women, have, can or will ever do anything at all wrong. The second poster says he has never seen a woman shame a man or use sex to manipulate or control him. I have rarely seen an interaction where a man isn’t treated like crap the instant he refuses to be financially objectified or mistreated.
The whole let it slide and don’t retort is basically just saying that because they are women we won’t hold them accountable in any way.
You want to stave a slave to your penis and spend your lives being a second rate citizen, a financial and reproductive object, be my guest.
The issue is that while feminism came from the male sense of justice and was ultimately initiated by men, women are a moral void and will never self regulate. They[women] would allow for Glory Season or The Extinction of Y to occur without batting a prim eyelash.
While men are biologically engineered to want to protect women, women seem to be engineered by nature to get satisfaction (somewhat sexual) from the pain, death and suffering of men.
There is not a woman alive who could not achieve orgasm by watching her husband, father or son burn to death before her eyes.
Women are by means unblemishable. In fact they are basically a slightly smaller version of men, without a sense of consequence, shame, guilt or empathy. Even looking back into antiquity women weren’t oppressed due to weakness or inferiority, it was due to moral turpitude, mendacy. Look at Greek and Athenian mythology.
April 14, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Ann
Wow, there’s a lot of hate here and hate never solves anything it just brings more violence. I dont know what the women in your life have done or not done to you but you have to let that hate go and move on and forgive people (not for them but for yourself).
I also think that you are generalizing a gender just as much as some feminists do. Not all women are like you say and do what you think they do.
“The second poster says he has never seen a woman shame a man or use sex to manipulate or control him. I have rarely seen an interaction where a man isn’t treated like crap the instant he refuses to be financially objectified or mistreated.”
I agree there are women who use sex to manipulate the men around them AND men do it too. On both sides its wrong to do but people (men and women) do it all the time. In your experience you may have been the victim or only ever seen one side, but i am pretty sure that men and women do it equally. In the media they may tend to portray men as the perpatraitors and women as the victims; which is a stereotypes and stereotypes breed prejudice, and as a general fact i think everyone should try and fight their preconceived notion of people and judge.
everyone individually, not as a whole.
“You want to stave a slave to your penis and spend your lives being a second rate citizen, a financial and reproductive object, be my guest.”
Men may be treated bad but to call them second class citzens in extreme and biased. In the past men may have felt obligated to marry (which is wrong not one should feel obligated in to make that kind of commitment) but often women were forced to marry. Where in the world do you see men forced to cover their faces and have an escort everywhere they go or else be stoned? If you were captured behind enemy lines who the first though in your head be ” when and who will rape me”, i dont think so? Were men ever thought to not have brains? Has their sexuality ever been demoralized to the point of disgust and non-existance, i think not? There are so many more examples of women, in general being second class citizens. I am not say that men have not been discriminated against or abused, because they have. I am just saying that it is going more than a bit too far to call me “second class citizens in any way.
“women are a moral void and will never self regulate.”
This comment is just disgusting and i think you would feel the same way if i called men a “moral void”. Sure there are women have done horrible things, but there are also men who do the same things. Men and women, people, do horrible things. Once again, judge the person, not the people.
“They[women] would allow for Glory Season or The Extinction of Y to occur without batting a prim eyelash.”
There’s that “they” word again, lumping all us XX chromosome people together. I for one would never want to exterminate a people (that is a holocaust, we saw what happened last time someone tried that, use your words wisely) . I think men and women are meant to share this planet. We were created or evolved that way, whatever your belief, and i think as a species and a race that it would be a sad and cruel day to see either sex go.
“While men are biologically engineered to want to protect women, women seem to be engineered by nature to get satisfaction (somewhat sexual) from the pain, death and suffering of men.”
You love to generalize and i hope this isnt sarcasm cuz its just cruel. If men are so biologically engineer to protect women then why are some men abusive, why to they rape and torture. Why is it sometimes men that order the slaughter of women and children, tell me that. Women are capable of the same cruelties so i am not excluding any group. (stop lumping people together and judging them)
“Women are by means unblemishable. In fact they are basically a slightly smaller version of men, without a sense of consequence, shame, guilt or empathy”
Holy crap, this is exactly what some of those extreme feminists say about men and where has it gotten them, no where.
Oh and women are unblemishable. Women, for decades, were thought to be stupid, weak minded, incapable of complex emotions, logical thought, math, science, acting, art, and the list goes on. They were week and fickle and not even capable of managing themselves. if those arent blemishes i dont know what are.
That whole “smaller version of men thing” that just tells me you have some inner demons dude. I am so sorry for what ever some woman did to you in the past. She shouldnt have wronged you, but dont take that out on people who dont wish to harm you, or the women who want everything to go well in your life. There are good women, good people out there. if you hold that in you all people will come to see is the ugly you have inside of you. good luck with your inner demons.
June 13, 2011 at 9:19 am
Frank
Ann: Can you bring yourself to understand, that the way you choose to express your negative opinion of this piece is the exact tactic that this piece is admonishing? Are you aware that your attempt to repudiate the ideas put forth here amount to nothing more but shaming word after shaming word?
July 2, 2011 at 5:46 pm
tsk tsky
““Women are by means unblemishable. In fact they are basically a slightly smaller version of men, without a sense of consequence, shame, guilt or empathy”
Holy crap, this is exactly what some of those extreme feminists say about men and where has it gotten them, no where.”
Yes Ann thats why women get longer prison sentences for the same crimes and DV shelters greatly favor men… um wait no its the other way around. Besides thats what normal feminists say about men as a compliment extreme feminists want men reduced to no more than 10% of the population (most likely just alpha males remaining) to yield children.
“That whole “smaller version of men thing” that just tells me you have some inner demons dude. I am so sorry for what ever some woman did to you in the past. She shouldnt have wronged you, but dont take that out on people who dont wish to harm you, or the women who want everything to go well in your life. There are good women, good people out there. if you hold that in you all people will come to see is the ugly you have inside of you. good luck with your inner demons.”
This is shaming language i think this is a mixture of code maroon and code white along with code tan (yes its still attacking the persons romantic potential if you say “ugly on the inside” its the same difference) Also she has thrown in the old don’t hurt good women who want to help you (again totally off topic).
September 20, 2011 at 6:44 pm
sensitivity
Ann
‘“That whole “smaller version of men thing” that just tells me you have some inner demons dude. I am so sorry for what ever some woman did to you in the past.’
Your argument was going all well, until this point. What are you doing, is using shame tactics, which totally breaks your argument. You could have simply stated that his argument was incorrect [and why], not to make a personal attack regarding his personal life and problems, as if having personal problems imply his argument is invalid.
A person with inner demon’s argument can be just as valid as the same argument said by a person without inner demons. The validity or the invalidity of a statement remains the same regardless of who was the one that stated it.
This is just a small proof that some woman, such as you, use conscious or unconsciously shame tactics on men.
This post is here to help men [and why not, even women] to identify shame tactics some [not all] woman use.
March 10, 2015 at 12:27 am
fatemaster1
I’d ignore the detractors on this one Ann, your points are definitely valid in this case, Cecil Westervelt has clearly taken things too far here and needs to be put in his place.
December 3, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Juliano
“There is not a woman alive who could not achieve orgasm by watching her husband, father or son burn to death before her eyes.”
LMAO. Still men are the ones killing more men, women and children in the WHOLE WORLD. Still we have more male psychopaths and serial killers. Still we have more violent males and male rapists. Men love raping women. Still women were and still are violently oppressed in a lot of Countries because men “want to protect them”. Still men were the ones that told women to abort girls in China, because they think they are inferior. Still men leave behind, kill and rape their own children so much more. Still men are the majority destroying the planet, nature and abusing animals. Good.
Women love children and want to protect them. Men only want sex, don’t have natural paternity instinct and so don’t love children and want to compete, control, humiliate and abuse women. AND SO THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE LIKE THAT, only the laws could stop most of them from doing it.
We, as gay men, can clearly see this. You guys also hate us and kill us all around the world.
May 12, 2015 at 4:03 am
Rohan Roger David Zener
You must be some self-loathing bugger then.
March 10, 2015 at 12:23 am
fatemaster1
Dude, this is going a bit too far, I’m pretty certain that NAWALT would actually apply here. No, I don’t support feminism, but what you put down here seems just as bad.
February 28, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Steven Goforth
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March 5, 2011 at 5:03 am
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March 20, 2011 at 10:40 pm
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March 23, 2011 at 1:56 pm
response! | theslutwife
[…] I agree with Paige’s comment — explain, please. If you don’t want Martha Stewart, and in fact your standard is “quite low,” then explain. Is your standard so low that the ability to boil water would drive you mad with dreams of proposing? Seriously, is it? I would like to know, so that I can determine whether you’ve just not met many people with half a brain, or if you have a point. Wifey takes it way farther. She goes straight for code pink shaming language: […]
March 29, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Shaming Language? | Sofiastry
[…] a creep,” “You need therapy,” and so forth. (It’s expounded upon in this post.) It’s the equivalent of telling a feminist on the internet that she’s an “ugly […]
April 6, 2011 at 9:10 am
The White Fighting Man and a Return to Manifest Destiny
[…] is no need to reiterate the oft repeated claim that white men are being shamed by the feminist agenda until they have our balls in their purses. This is no secret that the liberal establishment […]
April 6, 2011 at 1:39 pm
The White Fighting Man And A Return To Manifest Destiny. « Anarchy in Athens
[…] is no need to reiterate the oft repeated claim that white men are being shamed by the feminist agenda until they have our balls in their purses. This is no secret that the liberal establishment […]
April 22, 2011 at 1:33 am
This will continue for quite sometime....
[…] […]
May 3, 2011 at 7:37 am
Anonymous
I don’t know that this is so much a man’s problem as it is one of human nature. Shame bombs can be dropped by both men and women. Usually, when I have seen it happen it has to do with an ego defense. Which, I think, is normal to a point, but we have to be able to overcome our tendency to protect our ideas, our values, and philosophies. We need to reverse that tendency and be more concerned with understanding the other person and where they are coming from. That is not an easy thing to do without compassion and trust, but once this kind of atmosphere is established, open and respectful communication can follow.
The US/Them mentality has caused more conflicts than gender roles.
July 2, 2011 at 6:26 pm
tsk tsky
“The US/Them mentality has caused more conflicts than gender roles.”
Pretty much a Damage control feminist here.
Maybe we shouldn’t knock gender roles althogether here
Gender roles dont cause conflicts in comparison to feminist equality, if a husband and wife worked together at the same job where they had to communicate they’re would be more conflicts than if they worked different jobs.
Same goes for the household if you both do household work u will be essentially working together and allowing more confrontations and conflicts they’re would be a constant power struggle.
Gender roles allowed men and women to work alongside each other rather than together resulting in far less conflict than today there are far more divorces and relationships simply do not that last.
Gender roles also made it easier for both men and women. Now thanks to equality men have two roles and so do women instead of one. Men used to work, women worked at home. Now Men work then come home and work and women do the same effectively creating twice as many jobs sure the economy benefited from this and caught up therefore rendering the benefits useless for dual earners. What we are seeing is that inorder to live confortablely people have to partner up and work effectively making everyone wage slaves not just men.
The us/them is exactly what feminism created when it started critizing gender roles by claiming that women were being oppressed and men were benefiting from this arrangment. But women now realise being a wage slave isnt so fun on top of doing housework. Im all for people having options but i myself would never live with a women (never marry her btw) who doesnt conform to tradditional gender roles and allows me to conform as well even at the cost of a increased earning which would probably be pointless since the cost of two people living would reduce that benefit further.
September 30, 2015 at 6:12 pm
Anonymous
I’ve worked with my boyfriend for four plus years at TWO jobs and we live together. If you can’t get along with your significant other in the workplace, sharing house chores, or other parts of your life, you chose poorly when picking a mate. Any people will get sick of each other or knit pick if they are around each other non-stop – friends, roommates, relatives. It has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with both parties being free to have personal space, showing mutual respect, and having stuff in common/similar ways of viewing the world when you are making decisions together and interacting.
May 4, 2011 at 1:12 pm
dd
No one should be shaming tacticing others no matter what gender you are. This male vs female crap is really slow witted and childish! Men and women need to focus on the real issues that is effecting their lives!
December 2, 2011 at 1:15 am
Chris Miller
“This male vs female crap is really slow witted and childish! Men and women need to focus on the real issues that is effecting their lives!”
Code green and silver.
Any others?
May 11, 2011 at 1:30 am
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May 16, 2011 at 1:59 am
Elly
I would like to point out that…
1. I am a woman.
2. I am a married woman.
3. I have two children with my husband.
Whew…now that that is over…
What bullshit!!!!
When I ask my husband if he lives with his mother it has nothing to do with me being a feminist. I say it because I do ALL of the house work and for some reason it is impossible for him to pick up his dirty socks and put them in the laundry hamper.
When I say any of the above comments it has nothing to do with me being a feminist and everything to do with the circumstances of my marriage…
I am married to a man who is 19 years my senior. He believes women should do all of the housework, raise the children, work, make his life simple, and wait on him hand and foot….
Again, that being said…
Feminism and racism have played their hands too far. It has tilted the axis of our society and now men are having to fight for their rights and manhood. We are castrating our males and trying to make them into “sensitive men”. I don’t know about the rest of the world but I don’t want a feminine man…I want my man to be a man. Hence why I am married to one who is probably a little over the top.
We need to start teaching our boys to be men and our girls to be girls…after nearly ten years with my husband I am beginning to agree with him that women in the work place as the norm has ruined our country. I am a stay at home mom right now because we have a special needs child. I am college educated but me and my husband decided it would be best for our child if I were to stay at home and take care of her and all of her appointments…
Now, I can’t imagine going back to work.
This site takes everything to the extreme but maybe this is what we need to do to restore the balance of power in this country…
September 20, 2011 at 7:36 pm
sensitivity
Elly,
“””
What bullshit!!!!
When I ask my husband if he lives with his mother it has nothing to do with me being a feminist. I say it because I do ALL of the house work and for some reason it is impossible for him to pick up his dirty socks and put them in the laundry hamper.
“””
I’m sorry to tell you this, but this post it isn’t about you telling your husband to pick up his dirty socks and being a feminist because of that. This post is a post about woman using shame tactics on men to manipulate, obtain power, “win” something, or as an argument to stop a man from giving valid arguments within an adult conversation. It is a post for allowing men to identify this shame tactics some women use, and how to overcome it. This is not extreme at all. If you think that this posts suits you, good for you. By the way, asking your husband if he thinks that he lives with his mother, it is , technically , a shame tactic. You are technically wanting to make him feel ashamed of not being able to pick up his socks, and you are infantilizing him. You could simply tell him “pick up your socks”. If you are mad at him for him not picking up his socks, just tell him so. Explain him the reasons of why you dislike picking up his socks. Communication is more effective than using shame, assuming both parties are mature enough. You don’t need to mention his mother at all to achieve the same effect.
December 2, 2011 at 1:22 am
Chris Miller
“When I ask my husband if he lives with his mother it has nothing to do with me being a feminist. I say it because I do ALL of the house work and for some reason it is impossible for him to pick up his dirty socks and put them in the laundry hamper.”
So that causes you to shame him? Because he’s more slovenly than you would like? Two wrongs don’t make a right– but while his wrong is against you personally, yours is against ALL men with your hatred/insinuation that men who live with their mothers, are worse than WOMEN who do the same.
“I am married to a man who is 19 years my senior. He believes women should do all of the housework, raise the children, work, make his life simple, and wait on him hand and foot….”
And who held the shotgun to force you to marry such a man, dear?
Yes, some men have such values; but leaving is an option, misandry is not.
Let’s be honest: you married him with the full-on intent of CHANGING him, didn’t you?
And in that vein, you use shaming-tactics to try to break him down to your will.
What kind of picture does that present of yourself? Not a good one, I assure you.
June 17, 2011 at 7:38 pm
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June 20, 2011 at 12:37 pm
WomenAreShallowCunts
Well here is another shaming tactic guys. “Hes creepy!’ Creepy = unattractive man who displays confidence!!!! Its all about looks!!! I used the fake photo of a more handsome man than myself my hobbies became interesting, lame jokes became funny and they were ready to have sex within the first few messages. Womens biggest lie ever to men: We don’t care about looks when the reality is THEY CARE MORE ABOUT LOOKS!!!! So many things can disqualify a man from getting a woman. If a man is short he is disqualified if a woman is short its okay. If a woman is overweight she has 50-100 guys in line ready to date her (bbw phenomena) if a man is overweight he is expected to lose it. If a man is asian he will have a TOUGH time dating non asian women and even some asian women! If a girl is asian she will have no problem dating any race. Women just sit back put on make up and take their pick of their 100s of options. The average man has little to no options. The average looking woman has 100s of options. Women chase the top 20 percent of men in looks and money even if they are below average themselves. Women can easily date a man out of her league because she has so many options. Men have to DATE BELOW their league because of their lack of options. Stupid fucking movies like Beauty and the Beast where they portray women being lenient on their standards of looks which is a lie!!! If anything there are so many men NOT FAT who are dating women who are FAT. Men are the ones who are lenient about a woman’s looks. Women have height requirements race requirements hair color eye color they look for reasons to reject men. FUCK WOMEN. How did the pick up artist get so rich teaching guys how to get one person into their life. If there wasn’t a problem how come so many MEN are going overseas to get one person into their life. Women don’t have to resort to going overseas to get one person into their life. Women don’t have to pay money to learn how to attract men. All a woman has to do is put on make up/register online for a dating site and TAKE HER PICK. They call it a “game” i call it “DUCK DUCK CHOOSE!”
July 2, 2011 at 6:10 pm
tsk tsky
“Women have height requirements race requirements hair color eye color they look for reasons to reject men.”
Idd sperm doners minimum height requirement is 5’11.
Remember women have the same competitive gene as men. It activates when men and women see other men it lays dormant upon seeing women. When its activiated men become competitive towards men and women become discriminatory towards men that is how the human race evolved to ensure maximum survival both men and women targeted men, and the men who survived the longest got to pass their genes to the next generation thereby hopefully making the race stronger as a whole.
“Men have to DATE BELOW their league because of their lack of options. ”
Again men shouldnt be aiming for long term relationships that is extremely foolish, a man who dates multiple partners and has many women in his circle is usually a happy man. The concept of monogamy was created to protect women and children and insure the children were the said mans, given our evolution, technology it is now not in the interests of men we are biologically built and programmed to enjoy many women it is pointless to torture urself with 1 just because mom said it was the right thing to do.
Its better to have many women in your life and not get attached to them and as for sex as long as you protect yourself and activitly make sure you dont have children sex is far more pleasurable. Having women as friends is simply better having them as partners in the short term is good too, long term marriage kids is generally too risky and tiresome.
“If anything there are so many men NOT FAT who are dating women who are FAT. Men are the ones who are lenient about a woman’s looks.”
Again the reason women feel discriminated or that men fear strong women is because this is all a subconcious projection of their discriminatory behavior. Women dont like fat women or strong independant women themselves so the project that onto to men. Even if all men weren’t like what they believe the projection would still continue.
It is what it is but the more women you have in your circle the more easier you will have sexual partners or partners. Women talk more about you if they have friends that know you. As long as you don’t fuck up and get in a serious relationship life can be enjoyable. Ive yet to see or be in a long term relationship where both parties benefit therefore the cost-benefit is not worth it so far and i doubt it will change in my lifetime.
December 2, 2011 at 1:31 am
Chris Miller
tsk tsky:
“technology it is now not in the interests of men we are biologically built and programmed to enjoy many women it is pointless to torture urself with 1 just because mom said it was the right thing to do.”
That’s because it was in MOM’S best interest to do that, so she would have her sons around evenings, and have grandchildren as well– rather than her sons always being out having fun out with the boys every evening, and with different girls every night.
Men need to re-appraise their attitudes, or else it’s going to be someone else telling them what to think and do.
December 2, 2011 at 1:27 am
Chris Miller
“Women chase the top 20 percent of men in looks and money even if they are below average themselves. ”
I’ve actually talked to women on sites who claim “don’t feel bad, I only choose the top 1% of men who talk to me in terms of looks.”
Of course this was after many messages had been exchanged, and it would have saved me considerable time and frustration if it had been simply listed in the profile.
And after that, they use “hate” as a shaming-tactic… as if!
October 14, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mark
If you are going to read one book this decade…..this is thr book! If you have a low opinion of women now…wait until you read this book….you will run from them like the plague!
http://www.protectionformen.com/
December 3, 2013 at 11:41 pm
Natïe Kolvska
“THEY CARE MORE ABOUT LOOKS”
I agree. I care a lot about looks, if he’s not at least a 8, he’s out. Of course, I only ask for what I can also give back. Now that’s only for superficial dates, though. When wanting to be in a relationship with a man he has not only to be gorgeous (not fat or hairy, yuck. I want a good body – toned, muscular or skinny, I don’t have a preference – and good sense of style, good hairstyle) and have a good personality and great values as well. I prefer him sensitive and educated. Extroverted or not, I don’t care too much.
Now about the Asian guys, I disagree. I love Asian guys, aah the Koreans! And as long as he is at least a bit taller than me, I’m fine.
What I see is that even when a gitl is fat, she is usually making up for it by dressing well, having a great haircut, applying make-up. Now men are just plain ugly. You can’t deny the average girls put a lot more effort on their looks than the average guys. So I woudn’t complain.
June 25, 2011 at 8:54 am
Amy
Can I ask what’s with the color coding? Does that make all you misogynists feel all cool and militant? And don’t say I’m just another feminist (though I am) because all I’m doing is using the word misogynist in the same exact terns as you’ve been describing feminism. A base word meaning woman hater, the dictionary’s definition not mine. Isn’t it funny how the dictionary describes feminism as a women’s movement towards equal social and political rights, but somehow this site has invented a whole new definition. Can you notice the difference that my word means what it says rather than proscribe an altered meaning? I bet you won’t, I bet you can’t.
July 14, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Exposing Feminism
So, why is it called “fem”inism if the movement is not gynocentric?
September 13, 2011 at 2:06 am
Alex
“Feminism” is not the opposite of “Misogyny”. “Misandry” is, and has since become the foundation for feminism in our generation above and beyond our parent’s and is no longer the noble cause it once was. After all, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Many guys here have been subject to exactly that far more than has been deserved to the point where we’ve discovered an air tight pattern. All that aside, if you genuinely wanted to be our equals, how come more than equal is already not good enough? Women already have far more leverage in every aspect of society by default than men do in North America today as well as several other countries in the world, and that’s a hard fact. Prove me wrong. I suggest you read this article about The Misandry Bubble sooner than later and take the time in the next 10 years to carefully reassess whether or not your current views towards men are ultimately worth it to you as an individual in the long run. For your own sake, I hope they will be. Beat a friendly dog long and hard enough and he’ll eventually design himself a replacement to make his evil owners obsolete. lol http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble/comments
September 20, 2011 at 9:11 pm
sensitivity
Amy,
“Can you notice the difference that my word means what it says rather than proscribe an altered meaning? ”
Let me show you something you wrote:
“Does that make ALL you misogynists feel all cool and militant?”
You are stating we are all misogynists. By definition “a person who hates, dislikes, mistrusts, or mistreats women. ” is a misogynist. You are also saying that we feel cool and militant. You calling us ALL misogynists is the kind of shaming tactics this post is about. Are we supposed to be ashamed of being misogynists, just because you say so? You are making bad generalization. And those unfair generalizations are what feminists were supposed to be fighting against. It seems that you are using a double standard here, where you women can make generalization but we men can’t because we are misogynists. Can you see the contradiction here? This is the kind of shaming tactics that some woman [specially some feminists such as you] use against men.
Some of the persons that write on this site, and some of those who comment here are men.They could be your father, your brothers, your uncles, your grandfather, your boyfriend, your husband, your male friends. Some of the persons here, not all, do not mistreat woman, or dislike woman, or mistrust, or even mistreat women. As a matter of fact, speaking for myself, I trust, respect, treat well, and like women [but not just ALL women. I won’t ever treat well a woman that doesn’t treats me well]. Does that make me a misogynist?
“And don’t say I’m just another feminist (though I am) because all I’m doing is using the word misogynist in the same exact terns as you’ve been describing feminism.”
You started by saying a generalization on your comment by calling us all misogynists. And we are not supposed to call you a feminist, even you stated you are a feminist, just because you say so? You are not using the word “misogynist” in the exact same terms as this site uses “feminist”. This post refers to SOME of the shaming tactics that SOME woman [including “feminists”] use. On the other hand, you are using “misogynist” to label us ALL as woman haters, therefore, you are not using feminist in the exact same terms as we use feminists.
You seem to use very well the shame tactics this site describes. Please read again code Brown, “Charge of Fanaticism”. Does “You sound like the KKK.” sounds familiar? You are calling ALL of us misogynists, which is not even a social movement such as feminism. You seem to be yet another feminist who uses shame tactics on men [as you just evidenced yourself]. But you using shame tactics doesn’t mean that all feminists are that way.
Please, if you comment here, try not using shame tactics.
July 2, 2011 at 10:45 pm
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July 10, 2011 at 7:03 am
Masked Writer
I think that it is a great thing if men have well thought our responses to the Feminazi lies and shaming techniques. As I always say: Decades ago Feminazis declared war on men. Time to fight back!
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December 2, 2011 at 1:41 am
Chris Miller
Masked Writer:
“I think that it is a great thing if men have well thought our responses to the Feminazi lies and shaming techniques.”
Actually it’s ESSENTIAL, since otherwise you’ll either accept them, or you’ll be re-inventing the wheel by countering them on your own– and that time and effort could be better spent elsewhere!
That’s the thing about feminism: it’s thousands of angry activist women against each individual man caught unawares; and clearly the fe minists had more resources mobilized, so they’ve build up a stronger front of oppression than men were prepared to repel.
Every coup of hate, from the Inquisition to the Holocaust, has been led by a small but politically-organized minority against a DIS-orgamized majority.
Feminism is a similar coup, and so men need to organize our considerable superior resources in order to slap these bitches back to hell using our superior logic and leadership-skills.
Bitches like those who wrote “The Rules” need to be exposed and countered, and let the best MAN win.
If a woman refuses sex, or anything else, fine— take your business elsewhere, and LEAVE HER ENTIRELY; don’t let her cheat, by enjoying whatever she gets from you (company, companionship, protection, presence etc). with no reciprocity. But these “shaming” techniques only work if you TOLERATE HER PRESENCE at all; remember: if she doesn’t accept your counter-arguments, then LEAVING isn’t simply an option, it’s a NECESSITY.
January 7, 2013 at 11:34 pm
Polyglot
There were six of them in a make-believe public transport bus. One after the other, they pounced, beating the male friend unconscious and raping the young girl. NOT ONE of them objected to whoever started with horrific assault. Instead, they joined in a grotesque orgy of violence. Raping her wasn’t enough. They proceeded torturing her further with an iron rod, ripping her insides to shreds. Impervious to her screams of agony, they continued for more than an hour. Then, they threw both of them – naked – off the bus. Cars, cyclists and rickshaw drivers passed, looked and carried on. When one of them called the police, eventually, the police arrived …. then squabbled for 25 minutes on a beaurocratic technicality.
Horrifying depth of human alienation from compassion for the suffering of others. From so many people.
It was a tipping point. The public spilled into the streets. Massive protests. The young girl died about 10 days ago. Because 6 depraved men thought they had a right to torture her, for being female, their “prey”. But to compare such men to predator-animals is to offend the animals. For animals don’t boast about their thinking abilities. They tend to fight off their competition, and not engage in communal frenzy of copulation. Then these monsters proceeded to pulverize her intestines.
They showed “murderous hyena-like contempt for the female” (Libby Purves’s metaphor.)
Yesterday, another young girl was gang-raped and murdered, also in India. Men (mote than one) have gone berserk.
Maybe, there are other brutal and murderous attacks in other parts of the world. The world media started disclosing a horrific increase of male violence against women and girls. Various institutions are in collusion with the rapists and will say anything to blame women, not rapists.
I already know the mentality of most macho-moron trolls on this site. I can predict their shallow, hysterical defensiveness. They will blame women for everything. I would not be surprised if you defended those 6 evil b*****ds in Delhi.
Some Indian men have said that they are ashamed of their gender. Let’s hope, it will lead to self-analysis and soul-searching. And an improvement in attitudes.
Many men have come out in solidarity with women. You don’t want to hear what punishment they would give these slimeballs.
Don’t give me any bullsh** about the feminization of society and femi-nazis. Feminism will now go global. Either join us as a decent human being, or shut up and hide somewhere, preferably on a desert island with other MRA’s. We can then have a peaceful societies with our comrades. Male and female.
Man is the only animal who blushes ….. or ought to.
As a group you have a lot to be ashamed of. In fact, shame IS a useless emotion unless, unless it leads to behaviour modification. I can only speculate on your behaviour in everyday life, but here, you are showing the real you. And it ain’t pretty.
April 21, 2013 at 4:38 pm
poester99
I have seen a video of a woman beating a baby.. should all women be ashamed of their gender because of that?
Does femininity need to be re-examined?
October 14, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Mark
The definition of a “Femi-Nazi is …..”a short angry man…with boobs”!
December 3, 2013 at 11:54 pm
Natïe Kolvska
Yes, fake feminists, the femi-nazis, really act as bad and horrible as angry men. Shame!
July 13, 2011 at 12:39 pm
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July 26, 2011 at 4:07 am
Gavn
I like how the comments from women are full of shaming language even though said shaming language has been addressed and debunked by the very blog post they are throwing shaming language at. Hilarious. GrlLogic(TM).
July 20, 2012 at 1:09 pm
frankie
Well, these feminists or wannabe will keep recycling the same phrases hoping someone somewhere would be naive enough to buy into it and re-confirm their believe. It is peaceful for them to hear someone who agrees as these feminists or wannabes were brainwashed to believe since they were spoon fed by the feminized media and school.
July 27, 2011 at 12:17 am
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August 1, 2011 at 11:55 am
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August 6, 2011 at 5:01 pm
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September 7, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Mr Natural
Guys please, why so much hate? Why so much name calling? C’MON the reason why women are in so much emotional mess is because, we put them there. Let’s not forget that this is a man’s world. IT WAS, IT HAS, & WILL ALWAYS BE. We created feminism guys. We created it to benefit us.Truth be told,all women wantfrom us is to love them, marry them, have kids with them, & share our lives with them. Feminism is just a subtle form of male sexual oppression. Seriously! We get women to think in our terms so that it will be easier for us to get into their pants. Condoms, dp, the pill, diphragm, & all kinds of gadgets. Devices & chemicals which you take are all for the benefit of the man. How? So that your femininity, your power to start life is subjected so that the man gets sexual fulfillment. Isn’t that just so one sided? Unless they’re married contraceptives give no honor to motherhood which is the symbol of True femininity. Women, never give into the temptation of trying to be equal to men. Men are nothing without women & women want nothing more but to be loved, honored, & cherished by men. This feminism mess can be undone if we JUST give them what they want. Our love & affection. Believe you me, if all the men in the western world decided tonight to start loving women by giving them their love & affections, feminism will DIE the very next day. The destiny of the world is in our hands men. All women can do is to become the kind of women we want them to be. In the past we had grandmothers mothers, daughters, sisters & aunts because we had more respect for women back then. But now we have alot of sluts,whores, bitches, milfs, feminists, lesbos, & spinsters & ALL this because the 21st century western guy has fogotten what it means to be a man which is to honor woman. Stop your yapping. Little girls complain. BE A MAN. TAKE THE LEAD. HONOR WOMAN BY LOVING THEM & CHERISHING THEM. You have bigger fish to fry like making that million & starting a company instead of wasting time bitching about feminists all day on the net.
September 13, 2011 at 1:06 am
Anonymous
Get a clue, White Knight. http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble/comments/
September 13, 2011 at 1:17 am
Alex
Get a clue, White Knight. Any number of your statements about women’s intentions in regards to men have been disproven as complete and total bunk. http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble/comments/
September 30, 2011 at 4:28 pm
scatmaster
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
You made the authors case.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
March 31, 2013 at 8:31 am
Anonymous
So did you. Idiot.
December 2, 2011 at 1:47 am
Chris Miller
Mr Natural
“Guys please, why so much hate?”
Another code red.
It’s WOMEN who hate men, by defaming them with these slanderous shaming-tactics. We’re simply taking proper offense at being wrongfully slurred in this manner by feminists, and women who are influenced by them.
If ANYTHING is hate, it’s feminist defamation against men, which paint men as inferior simply for wanting equal respect in exchange for giving it to women– in response to women’s ceaseless DEMANDS for same.
It’s also a rejection of feminist hypocrisy, shown via treating men worse than they want men to treat women themselves.
September 17, 2011 at 7:50 am
Mr Natural
Alex my brother, I have something very IMPORTANT to say to you personally. You may think I am a wimp so you called me a WHITE KNIGHT but deep down inside, as a man, you know that everything I’ve said is true despite the so-called facts of which you stand on. How do I know this? Because if I DARED you to start treating women with honor & respect, you wouldn’t have an ounce of strength enough to even think about doing it.
Why? Because you have already decided in your heart to refuse being a man either by choice or ignorance, whichever.
The type of wife, children, home & future that you want can only be decided by you & if you cannot be a man & recognize that your destiny is in your own hands, then my brother you will live the rest of your life a lonely person.
There is a woman outhere waiting to give all her desire, honor, loyalty, affection & love only to you Alex. If you cannot be a man & recognize the needs of women & provide accordingly, then don’t expect to be loved by women.
The one thing we as human beings desire most in life is to LOVE & BE LOVED. Why? Because after all the shit is over, what matters is who still remains beside us.
It’s a pity that you’ve closed your heart already to the love of women. You may be having such an attitude towards women because of some past experience but I can only guess. You seem to be a highly intelligent & articulate guy. Its a pity that some woman out there who is going to be swept off her feet by your witty personality & willing to share her joy & life with you will never know what an amazing person you are.
September 20, 2011 at 9:58 pm
sensitivity
I have to agree with you that some women want love, affection, and all those things, in the same as some men want those same things to.
I personally give lots of love and affection to my girlfriend, and she also gives me all her love and affection.
There has been a significant change in attitude towards women that was never imagined 100 years ago. Nowadays, things have seemed to turn against white men, at least in the USA and UK. Have you seen movies,or tv ads, where a woman kick in the testicles a male guy, and everyone seems to laugh at the guy? There is not a big fuss afterwards. Just reverse the roles, and put a man kicking a woman on the crotch, and you will see no one laughing, and suddenly some cops will come to arrest the guy. The exact same action, just different genders. This is what this post is all about. Is about how some women [and men] use shame tactics on a man when they find that a girl kicking in the testicles of a guy is not fun, and it is called physical abuse.
Have you been in family court? Have you see how the whole divorce system is biased against men? Do you know that guys won’t get the children’s custody, even if he proves that the woman is a physically, mental, and verbal abusive person towards the ex-husband and the children?
It doesn’t matter how much love, affection, patience you give to some kind of women [I’m referring to Borderline Personality Disordered, Narcissistic, and Antisocial women, but also to some normal women out there], they will rejoice in happiness with the feeling of getting the children’s custody, half of your possessions [even though she might have not earned anything of those], getting child care which some women will not use on their children, and also claiming alimony for the rest of the ex-husband’s life. Now, won’t you call all that unfair?
You speak as if you are gentleman, or a “White Night” as Alex told you. But you weren’t such a gentleman making inferences over Alex’s love life, and using some shaming tactics described in this post. You are implying that because of his comments that he doesn’t have a wife/girlfriend since his ideas won’t be accepted.
If I were to make inferences about your mother’s job or love life, without any facts, wouldn’t that make you upset?
A true gentleman will treat well not just only pretty woman, but all woman and also all men. If we are to make a better world, we should start treating everybody well.
March 31, 2012 at 11:26 am
Marcus Mustafa Johnson
This is a feminazi posing as a man.
April 21, 2013 at 4:43 pm
poester99
hmmm… sorry to nitpick, but “white men”?
No, not by any means just white men… it’s all men that are being targetted,
September 24, 2011 at 5:46 pm
The Spearhead: White Nationalism? More like White Knight Nationalism » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] is nothing but garden variety anti-male shaming language. However, that doesn’t beat what a White Nationalist woman has to say: Lock-load is an […]
September 27, 2011 at 9:13 am
mariage
May I add a few portions of “‘The Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics’ Exposing Feminism” on my personal site, with a back-link naturally ? Thank you for your answer.
October 5, 2011 at 3:09 am
Most common female "shit tests" and how to pass them? - Page 2
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October 7, 2011 at 11:01 am
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[…] the liberal amount of shaming language she used, she accuses me of “recommending sexual and physical abuse”. This was no […]
October 9, 2011 at 12:28 pm
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November 13, 2011 at 4:47 pm
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[…] being oppressed by such clearly man-hating language, they often refer to something called the Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics, which, well, catalogues their language grievances in detail. According to the author of the […]
November 16, 2011 at 12:46 pm
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[…] On the site, the author lists a series of categories and includes various insults under them. Futrelle conveniently left out insults like: “You’re just afraid of losing your male privileges.” […]
November 21, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Shame On You! « Traditional Christianity
[…] quickly shot down for engaging in “shaming language.” There’s even a chart with codes identifying and categorizing the tactics of feminists who use shaming language. It’s a great list by the way. I kind of […]
November 24, 2011 at 12:44 am
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December 2, 2011 at 1:55 am
Chris Miller
Alex:
“Nowadays, things have seemed to turn against white men, at least in the USA and UK. Have you seen movies,or tv ads, where a woman kick in the testicles a male guy, and everyone seems to laugh at the guy? There is not a big fuss afterwards. Just reverse the roles, and put a man kicking a woman on the crotch, and you will see no one laughing, and suddenly some cops will come to arrest the guy.”
Actually, that’s telling, since it’s the equivalent of First Degree rape: i.e. intentional genital penetration and injury; but it’s categorized as 2nd-degree at most, because sex-crime laws are geared towards women, so that only penetration of anal or genital OPENINGS are counted as first-degree sex-crimes; and men clearly don’t have genital openings.
So sexual attacks on men are counted not only as “funny” in culture and media, but in the eyes of the law as well.
December 7, 2011 at 5:24 pm
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December 26, 2011 at 5:28 am
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January 15, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Anonymous
Hateful language and posturing helps nobody
January 17, 2012 at 7:41 pm
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[…] ErickL: Danielle – I note that you don’t address the topic of discussion at all, but simply attack TheBrad personally with feminist shaming tactics. […]
January 29, 2012 at 12:01 am
“Shame” is the Name of the Game « Beyond The Sunset
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January 31, 2012 at 2:41 pm
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February 6, 2012 at 12:30 pm
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[…] like a feminist. She talks about how “angry” the manosphere is (which we know is code orange shaming language). Since she doesn’t seem to be any different than a feminist, what’s her reason for […]
February 17, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Don Bridges
What a very cool website/blog!!! “Exposing feminism” is an excellent example (out of 1000’s now) of how men are finally starting to unite and fight back. Regardless of how we men fight, whether it be against “petty stuff” or against any part of radical feminism, one thing is for sure: men had better stick together. Some sites are better than others but at least we men are fighting something that is unnatural, synthetic, truth-hating, socialistic, short-sighted, selfish, and scared of masculinity because it isn’t what/how women WANT it to be—so they can have their way all the time. Way to go “exposing feminism”. Keep up the good work. Love you!
Don
March 4, 2012 at 9:33 pm
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[…] there are so few guys knowingly doing that so it wouldn’t come up on Boundless.) It’s shaming language on […]
March 20, 2012 at 11:31 am
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April 4, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Melanie Berthelots
A propos, a propos d’immortel, ll se dit que le célèbre libraire Gérard Collard, qui a fondé la librairie Griffe Noire, va se présenter pour être élu à l’Academie Française !. Je suis convaincu que cela ferait un deuxième élan à l’Académie, foi de Saint Maurien. Qu’en penser ?
April 4, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
Brother, would you mind if we put this on a flier? We would like to include this kind of thing also, by quote and giving you credit at least, in The Masculinists Manifesto. We will do these things only with your permisison.
Also here is a variation of the feminist logo that we modified slightly for the use by men:D http://masculinists.net/files/2012/03/men-unite.jpg
April 5, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Exposing Feminism
No problem my friend, copy what you like. 🙂 E.F.
April 5, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
Thank you kindly!
April 5, 2012 at 6:04 am
Nathan
Should men get edifying for their virginity under gender neutral arguments. This should force gender roles.
April 5, 2012 at 11:32 am
Code Pearl » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] is “You have a small penis” and all of its derivatives. Yet, it is missing from the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics. While it might technically be covered by other categories, it deserves its own category because […]
April 22, 2012 at 11:16 am
John
This is hilarious.
April 24, 2012 at 1:36 am
USA An interesting site about feminist tactics
[…] […]
May 7, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Márcio
Great post!
It is all a matter of unmasking what they really mean: paraphrase them in your terms (not hers) and she will be furious! Bear in mind that once a woman starts to corner you, it is because she hates you and she wants to suck your blood. It is like boxing. So strike back!
Great job!
May 11, 2012 at 1:36 am
Arnie
This may have been said before, but here I go. The suggested responses in this catalogue are often weak because they follow up on the accusation, take it seriously and sometimes even give an explanation for your behavior. Doing this in a discussion distracts everyone from the topic at hand and drives you into defending yourself against the ad hominem accusations, while you are under no obligation to do so. The objective of the ad hominem is then achieved: they couldn’t counter your original point with logic, were going to lose the discussion that way, so they drive you into a different domain where you’re not defending your point, but yourself. Don’t be tempted to do this. I’d rather suggest wittingly unveiling the ad hominem for what it is, and forcing the feminist to go back to the topic at hand. For example, if your argument is being ridiculed, you might say “If my argument is really as absurb as you pretend that it is, then surely you can come up with a rational counterargument rather than laughing it off.” Another example, look what happens here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeMfFzF4SS8&feature=related – How he could have defused the “it’s fun” non-argument? “No doubt you find this fun, but whether or not it’s fun is not the question. The question is whether this is RIGHT or WRONG and you have said nothing about that..”
May 11, 2012 at 10:38 pm
John
Well I think I broadly agree with you except that your title is wrong. It should read “Extreme feminism is man-hate”. Because of feminism my mother was able to have her own bank account by middle-age. Because of feminism women who are beaten up by their husbands are no longer told by the police to go back to them. Problems only arise in human life when people forget that wisdom lies in moderation, especially where ideology is concerned.
May 13, 2012 at 12:43 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
“Well I think I broadly agree with you except that your title is wrong. It should read ‘Extreme feminism is man-hate’.”
This is what we call NAFALT. Not all feminists are like that.
“Because of feminism my mother was able to have her own bank account by middle-age.”
This is untrue. Women were always allowed to have their own bank accounts. A little known secret was that poor people, men and women alike, were not allowed to have bank accounts. Did you know that? I didn’t think you did. When they finally allowed poor women to have bank accounts, men had them only a few scant years before the women. Feminism had nothing to do with it at all. In fact, during that time your mother was not allowed to have her own bank account, the banks also refused husbands their own bank accounts.
The interesting thing is, today, women DO get their own bank accounts and married men are still denied this. If she finds out about your private bank account, she can attach herself to it. She can do the same to YOUR house as well. YOUR car. And so on. So please don’t talk to people who actually know history as if women were denied things that men were not somehow likewise denied. Learn your history before talking.
“Because of feminism women who are beaten up by their husbands are no longer told by the police to go back to them.”
False. Abuse of wives was always against the law AND legislation in ALL of Western Jurisprudence. It was only a RARE police officer who would tell a beaten woman to go back to her husband. I love how people take the EXCEPTIONS to the rule, AS IF those exceptions WERE the rule.
“Problems only arise in human life when people forget that wisdom lies in moderation, especially where ideology is concerned.”
Nonesense. Feminism itself is rarely moderate. You know it. I know it. When people ask me what kind of feminism I reject I say “The kind that purports patriarchy and male privilege”. Any of THOSE kinds have demonstrated themselves to be extreme.
May 23, 2012 at 9:47 pm
The Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics « Thinking 8
[…] From Men For Justice via Exposing Feminism. […]
June 11, 2012 at 4:16 am
Anonymous
Come on … you guys act like this is something brilliant. I finally clicked on it, prepared to be astounded, and this?
This is just basic rhetoric. You do the same thing to feminists. “I bet you are fat and ugly and no man wants you.” WRONG.
Some of the things you say, you should be ashamed of. There are some behaviors that I see men display, that are indeed shameful.
If pointing them out to you is a tactic, then it must also be a tactic to get your oil changed when it is dirty. You identify a problem, and you do what it takes to solve it.
June 12, 2012 at 7:52 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
“This is just basic rhetoric.”
You have a misdefinition of rhetoric.
“You do the same thing to feminists. “I bet you are fat and ugly and no man wants you.” WRONG.”
False. I do not use body shaming. I do not even argue a feminists feminism against her. I argue the argument.
“Some of the things you say, you should be ashamed of.”
I have nothing to be ashamed of.
“There are some behaviors that I see men display, that are indeed shameful.”
We see you duplicity in this and the next statement. When it is a man doing it, it is shameful…but…
“If pointing them out to you is a tactic, then it must also be a tactic to get your oil changed when it is dirty. You identify a problem, and you do what it takes to solve it.”
Which means “when we feminists use body shaming tactics, well thats just fine and dandy…”
Sorry, we;re not following for it.
February 13, 2013 at 4:05 am
terry
OK, was she talking about you specifically? no? then why feel the need to say so?
Only one woman, unless I missed one, has said something shameful. maybe more. however, almost all these comments are male, and most are very resentful and hateful towards women. your logic fails. it is shameful when anyone does it, but here, more men are doing it. in fact, the vast majority are, and what’s worse, they are getting a standing ovation while the few women (and men) who dare to challenge their opinions, be it in a positive or negative way, is immediately put to death verbally.
You just sound upset that someone is calling you out for being a hypocrite (calling feminists wrong when you are doing exactly what they do). Your arguments are pretty weak, at best, if you can even call them attempts at arguing. you’re not even addressing anything that user said half the time.
Oh, and I know I’m “shaming” you for saying something you don’t like to hear. Sorry ’bout that.
“I have nothing to be ashamed of.”
Lol, you go right on telling yourself that so you can sleep at night, Mr. Defensive.
June 18, 2012 at 2:29 am
Janelle
Men have been the largest opressors of men since throughout history – without the aid of a female.
Think about it.
Through out history, men have been responsible for religion, monarchies, money, war, exploration, discovery, government, and work (jobs).
I’ve noted that it seems men who are forced to work for men with more resources than they, have an accusing out look of their realities, pointing fingers at everyone but themselves, refusing to take responsibility for their own course of life, and would rather stew in their own negative experiences instead of allowing the experience to mold them into better people.
There is no amount of kindness a female could ever give to a male to heal his lack of self love, hate toward himself and others, and like wise, there is no amount of masculinity that will ever heal a female that hates herself etc.
Any woman that attempts to put a man down by calling them names, making assumptions, raising her temper, etc, is NOT worthy of a honorable, gentle, masculine, and respectful man.
That being said, any man that attempts to put a woman down deserves the same fate.
And that goes for anyone that disapproves of any person regardless of their gender, race, age, sexuality, and shoe size — of self enlightenment through education and experimentation.
It’s called give and take.
Whether your believe in a Creator or science, males and females have been created to compliment each other in every way possible, down to biology and means of reasoning.
When one goes, the other goes, too. And we all have every bit of power of putting our foot down when we see something we disagree with — not out of feeling insecure, or the desire to control, but of the well being of ourselves and others.
If you’re feeling (and yes feeling) that “all females are crazy” ask yourself why you’re allowing this fallacy into your mind.
Ask yourself “Are all men crazy?” Of course not.
There fore, are all women crazy? No.
Using the word “all” and “crazy” is not only an fallacy, but it is an opinion.
Opinions are not valid facts.
It gives your power away.
With that said, if you have insecurities as a man, then work on them.
No one will be able to fix your problems but you — and no woman or man is ever going to be able to heal whatever negativity you’re allowing yourself to experience.
Being angry is an emotion.
And I’ve noted several people claiming females to be emotionally unstable creatures, when all of this is easily explained away by science.
It takes an understanding mind, a mind that’s willing to learn, and I strong mind to learn from a negative experience with any woman, and move on.
I feel that if men and women can appreciate each other’s differences and participate in team work, we can accomplish a great deal.
As far as the people who are angry, they can have their side of the Universe and those of us who wish to move forward and love each other will have the other side.
I feel that by doing this, we can evolve as a higher species.
June 18, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
Not a single stitch of which has anything to do with anything that’s been said.
Look cupcake, we’re well aware it is MEN that are the enforces of female hypergamy, consumerism and more. We MEN are UNITING and refusing to be your beasts of burden anymore. For this you try to shame us using the tactics mentioned in the original post.
Well, we’re not falling for it anymore.
Since it’s no longer working you now try a game of three card monty. Look look at the queen! Follow the queen! Oh look its the king instead!
Well we’re not falling for that cupcake.
You COULD have said, you know fellows, you are right, telling a man he has a small cock isn’t a right way to deal with a disagreement. So instead what you did was come out and reveal exactly what you are to us.
September 18, 2012 at 4:01 am
Ldoucette1959
Try Sobriety—cupcake. You sound like a ward of the state.
December 4, 2013 at 12:49 am
Natïe Kolvska
“hypergamy, consumerism and more”
Okay. Now, really, please tell me what are the other sins women practice more than men (not based on biology, of course, as in “abort” – if you think it’s bad anyway)?
I don’t really know if women consume more than men as well (maybe more superficial things as fashion or cosmetics, but in a lot of Countries men are already consuming these same things almost as much as women anyways), but that’s okay.
And yes, I agree and will say “you are right, telling a man he has a small cock isn’t a right way to deal with a disagreement”. So don’t be that defensive, please.
September 18, 2012 at 4:05 am
Ldoucette1959
Do you really have such hope???? Reading this site alone should scare off any normal female from getting involved with a man. I already knew that—-here is the proof.
September 18, 2012 at 8:03 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
Prove it.
April 21, 2013 at 4:50 pm
poester99
yes, please, if this blog saves but one man (from you), it’s worth it!
June 20, 2012 at 10:59 am
A natureza repetitiva da linguagem intimidatória | Canal do Búfalo
[…] e como contra argumentam? Usando mais linguagem intimidatória. E isto não é algo incomum. O blog Exposing Feminism, que mantém uma cópia do Catálogo das Táticas de intimidação contra h… (NT: clique aqui para ler em português, traduzido pelo Canal) recebeu uma resposta similar para o […]
June 23, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Guest Post: You’re Damn Right I’m Shaming You! « Gucci Little Piggy
[…] phrase that’s been bandied about to the point of meaninglessness. What is shaming language? Here’s a good definition: “Shaming tactics.” This phrase is familiar to many Men’s Rights Activists. It conjures up […]
July 1, 2012 at 11:46 am
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[…] a sértettség beszél belőlem. Csakhogy én már jópár éve napi szinten találkozom a “shaming language“-el, ahogyan az angolok nevezik ezeket a feminista megszégyenítési kísérleteket. Jó […]
July 3, 2012 at 1:48 am
Charlotte
You humans are so funny…did you know that if you simply change the pronoun in each of these retorts, they could be feminist rebuttals? Of course adjusting the charges, slightly, although many of these arguments were actually leveled at women at various points in history.
No shit all of you want respect. Fucking duh. That’s not mocking you, specifically. I’m mocking them too. When debate between girls and boys, actually evolves to union of Men and Women, and you all put away the insults and stung emotions and instead honestly and logically work together for balance, trust and understanding…that will be the day…maybe love really is the only way. So love thy neighbor.
July 3, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
False cupcake. I do not want respect. I especially do not want respect from nimrods like you.
No one is insulting here except you women. We Men are refusing to tolerate your nonsense anymore.
February 13, 2013 at 4:11 am
terry
“cupcake” “nimrod” “you women”
what were you saying about insulting? Hypocrite says wha?
Why you mad, woman hater? and yes, if that makes you feel rightfully ashamed for trying to shame women, it IS shaming you. Anyone who treats people with such contempt deserves to be shamed. No one is gonna agree with you with that ugly personality. deep down, you’re just lonely and not gonna enjoy celibacy as much as you might pretend you will.
April 21, 2013 at 4:57 pm
poester99
lol.. true,
but he doesn’t hate women any more than you hate man, but you’re just a careless person who spams shaming and hurt against the other sex, the one that you believe is deserving of all your wrath, into your writing.
Women like you are everywhere, and worthless to any man who wants to keep an ounce of self respect.
December 4, 2013 at 12:59 am
Jupith
What a f*cking hypocrite you are.
OHH women generalize and insult blahblahblah and here I am GENERALIZING AND INSULTING AS WELL! Look how much of a hypocrite I am! And I have no shame about this!
Men in here are insulting women all the way. Some even said women are irrational (less than human), inferior and should be controlled by torture. It’s just that you don’t care about men hating women, but just hate women too much to ever consider anything they have to say – and this already makes you a lost case.
Hypocrite, overly-sensitive sexist and misogynistic as*hole. You will have no respect, and I’m happy that you don’t expect it. In my Coutry you would be in jail by now.
No one needs to shame you. You are a walking shame.
July 3, 2012 at 7:18 am
Mike pokes me on Facebook « Paul Murray's Blog
[…] I deconverted from christianity to atheism a long time ago. And one thing you learn as an atheist on the intertubes is that religious folk just repeat the old arguments over and over. I don’t think I “idolize” anything at this late stage of my life, and as for the gay crack, that would be a “Code Lavender” on the anti-male shaming chart […]
July 9, 2012 at 2:00 am
Moses
I find it interesting that so many women can’t seem to produce any other attributes to offer men besides sex. The fact that this is the default shaming tactic of so many women speaks VOLUMES about how women truly view THEMSELVES…It reveals that feminism has so greatly debased femininity that women are no longer good for anything but sex. This is why “code tan” is the default shaming tactic for so many women. But women are so stupid; they don’t realize they ADMIT they are good for nothing more than sex every time they use this shaming tactic.
BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN
http://boycottamericanwomen.blogspot.com
September 18, 2012 at 3:54 am
Ldoucette1959
I hope you find it interesting that American Women would be infinitely better off without men as a hinderance—Please boycott us.
September 18, 2012 at 8:04 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
No worries mz 1959, you are well past your expiration date.
October 6, 2012 at 4:27 am
Anonymous
I don’t agree that men should boycott all american women. I am an american woman and my husband is the king of his castle. I believe that a woman’s place is at home taking care of her husband’s needs and her children. There is an order to everything in life. Men are to rule over women. Women are to submit to their husbands. Why are so many women wanting to be like men? If you act like a man, men will not want to protect you and will want to fight with you. Please women wake up! This whole feminist bs is hurting us and our society! Men stand your ground and take back the authority that is rightfully yours!
October 14, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Mark
WHOA!!!………are you for real?……..a woman with your attitude would and should be worshiped like a princess!…….*BOWS* in your presence!!!
February 13, 2013 at 4:15 am
terry
Mark- worshipped for being a normal woman?
February 13, 2013 at 4:17 am
J
Lol, you mean, you cant find any attributes about women you want besides sex. Cry a little more, bitter, stupid 30 year old celibates.
Right hand time!
December 4, 2013 at 1:10 am
Julia Nerves
Men always say they only want sex… and a doormat to train box wth. At least women can enjoy the sex as well lol.
Men also have no need other than sex for women, WHEN they have it. So no big deal.
Hey guys, please boycott American women all you want – but please don’t come over our Continent (South America), okay? We really don’t want your ugly, fat and hairy disgusting bodies. Even less your rotten minds. We love the gorgeous men we have around here, so please don’t ruin it for us, ahaha!
July 10, 2012 at 7:42 am
United Kingdom Prostitution- better to legalize or criminalize? - Page 3
[…] they have to do. And here, on antimisandry.com, flexiblue resorts to "Code Tan" in the anti-male shaming catalogue. Way to go, flexible. Way to be a men's rights proponent. Right here on a site dedicated to […]
July 13, 2012 at 11:06 am
Feminista vitatechnikák – shaming language - Férfihang.hu
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July 15, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Spearheader: Feminist men are “nerds, socially awkward, sissy-gay, annoying or just plain weird.” « man boobz
[…] they’re “losers” who can’t get laid. Huh. Isn’t that one of those “Anti-Male Shaming Tactics” I hear about from MRAs all the […]
July 23, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Lukasz Wysocki
I think its ironic that you guys despise the qualities that women have developed over millenia in order to survive as a physically weaker gender, but you also hate the fact that women are now standing up, being independent, rather than manipulatively seeking a male to “take care of them”. So you disrespect their “weak” natures, but also claim to be a response to feminism, in other words you are a response to women acting more “manly” or self-reliant. You can’t have it both ways. In my opinion, yes women developed a manipulative, scheming, gossipy nature in order to survive. But now that they have all of the same oppertunities men have, they are becoming less so. You should be glad about this. Now you can have a relationship with a woman without having to be her “protector” or bread-winner, because they work too! And because they work and participate in society just as men do, both genders are quickly losing their differing characteristics both social and personal. There is of course a distribution that ensures all kinds of men and women exist, but the average man and woman are growing in similarity. So I just don’t understand why you guys are pissed off.
One last thing: As a guy who used to have trouble getting a girlfriend or getting laid etc. but doesn’t anymore, you should really reconsider the validity of the “bitterness” argument. I used to be bitter and pissed off, but that goes away when you mature, solve your personal problems. In the mean-time, try focusing on real issues like the fact that the almost all-male “business-men” are robbing us all blind!
July 24, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
“I think its ironic that you guys despise the qualities that women have developed over millenia”
False. None of us here despise good qualities. Shaming tactics should be universally despised and your shaming tactic of shaming us for despising shaming tactics we treat with the same despising as we do all other shaming tactics.
“in order to survive as a physically weaker gender,”
False. Women have the same number of muscle fibers as Men. My mother was 4’11” and I saw her knock out a man a full foot taller than her in a pub when I was a child. She grabbed him by the collar and jerked him to her then punched him out cold. So don’t try to play this fairy tale, which is a misgynistic fairy tale at that, that women are weaker than men. Biologically it simply is not so.
“but you also hate the fact that women are now standing up, being independent,”
False. Telling a man that living with his mother makes him less of a man, is not being independent or standing up, it is a shaming tactic and quite frankly a lie.
“rather than manipulatively seeking a male to “take care of them”.”
False. Tell me when are not seeking a male to take care of them the number of women seeking child support falls below 93%, perhaps to the 40% range. Until then women can shut the fuck up about this claim that they do not seek a male to take care of them, because they most definitely DO seek males to take care of them.
“So you disrespect their ‘weak’ natures,”
False. We do not disrespect anything about the nature of women, and it most certainly is not a weak nature.
“but also claim to be a response to feminism,”
False. I am a Masculinist and My Masculinism is no response whatsoever to feminism. My Masculinism is a response to misAndry which is thousands of years old. Indeed, without a preexisting condition of misAndry, feminism could never have been born.
“in other words you are a response to women acting more ‘manly’ or self-reliant. You can’t have it both ways.”
False. Feminism is not about women acting more self reliant. If it were it would not make more and more demands for Men to pay for women. It would seek to end all child support, all state funded programs, all community. There is nothing beneficial about being “self” reliant for none of us truly are self reliant. We Masculinists favor choice. In such and such an instance I can choose to be individualistic and in such and such other circumstance I can choose to be collective. Both are my choices to make. Whilst feminists often want to force one or the other choice on someone without their consent.
“In my opinion, yes women developed a manipulative, scheming, gossipy nature in order to survive.”
FALSE. What the fuck is wrong with you? You really have a low opinion of women. No WOMEN do not have a manipulative, scheming, gossipy nature. SOME women and perhaps MANY women MIGHT do these things. When they take these entitlements they take them because they are offered. Just the same as we Men enjoy some entitlements. This post makes NO SUCH all inclusive claim about women as you just claim. It exposes feminist shaming tactics and sorry to dissappoint you but all women are not feminists so writing a post about feminism is not writing a post about women.
“But now that they have all of the same oppertunities men have, they are becoming less so. You should be glad about this.”
FALSE. You set up a false claim about women when we are talking about feminist shaming tactics. Good job there sherlock.
“Now you can have a relationship with a woman without having to be her ‘protector’ or bread-winner, because they work too!”
FALSE. ESPECIALLY false. Female hypergamy is at its peak and women still to this day marry and boyfriend UP. Men who do NOT “protect” their girlfriends are shamed. It JUST was written about in an article about the Colorado shooting where they were trying to shame a man for running from bullets. As if the bullets would not hurt him too. It JUST happened in that ship that went down in Italy where they were shaming men for SAVING THEIR OWN FAMILIES but not other women.
So don’t fucking tell us that the ‘protector’ status of Men has changed.
93% of women will collect child support and refuse visitation to Men for their children. So do not tell me that Men still do not have to be bread winners.
“And because they work and participate in society just as men do,”
False. Men build the buildings, do the crab fishing (most dangerous job in the world), work in the dangerous jobs in the plants, mine the ore and I could go on and on. MEN and MEN ALONE as a group do ALLLLLL of the dangerous jobs. MOST women choose retail and secretarial as their jobs. Then they whinge that they are getting no where.
“both genders are quickly losing their differing characteristics both social and personal.”
False. Women are becoming ever more an entitled class and Men are becoming a slave class.
“There is of course a distribution that ensures all kinds of men and women exist, but the average man and woman are growing in similarity. So I just don’t understand why you guys are pissed off.”
False. Because you ignored the article that’s why fuckwit. This article is not talking about Men and women in general. It is talking about SHAMING TACTICS that feminists use to SHUT DOWN valid objections to their many many false claims.
I was RAPED by my fucking mother, ABUSED and KIDNAPPED. BEATEN. But whenever I say this feminists try to tell me that I deserved it because of some thing some man 1 thousand years ago did. When I object to this I am told that I have a small penis and practically ALL of the shaming tactics above. Guess what fuckwit, I get to object and challenge those lies.
“One last thing: As a guy who used to have trouble getting a girlfriend or getting laid etc. but doesn’t anymore,”
False. I have a vow of celibacy my brother. I get to CHOOSE NOT to have sex, whether you like it or not. Your attempt at shaming me for a choice to NOT have sex is SOUNDLY DISMISSED>
“you should really reconsider the validity of the ‘bitterness’ argument.”
False. If a woman is beaten, kidnapped and raped no one tells her she is NOT allowed to be bitter about it.
I will stand on the street and SHOUT at the top of my fucking lungs, I AM BITTER that MY MOTHER RAPED ME! I do NOT CARE WHO THINKS that I should NOT be bitter! I GET to be bitter about being VIOLENTLY abused, accosted, raped, kidnapped, tortured, and NOT FED FOR DAYS at a time. YOU have NO say in what I get to be BITTER about.
Further, if I CHOOSE to be bitter about some feminist trying to SHAME ME for having LIVED with my MOTHER as an adult, DESPITE her abuse and the feminist tries to shame me for having CARED for my mother, fed her, bathed her, helped her to doctors and giving her her meds because she could no longer walk or talk due to a stroke, well she can FUCK THE FUCK OFF. I REFUSE to be shamed because I was an adult man living with hismother.
“I used to be bitter and pissed off, but that goes away when you mature, solve your personal problems.”
False. By maturing you mean attempting to sexual shame men for objecting to sexual shaming tactics. This is what we call FAIL.
“In the mean-time, try focusing on real issues”
False. WE and WE ALONE decide what issues are real to us. NOT YOU.
“like the fact that the almost all-male ‘business-men’ are robbing us all blind!”
False. In fact MOST business Men are fine and noble people. Well over HALF are small businesses who employee 1 or 2 persons working side by side with them. So you can fuck off with this last attempt at shaming MEN.
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For the rest of the Men who read this I want you to take NOTE. Notice how this Man OSTENSIBLY starts out as if he is trying to be on the woman’s side. He is what MRAs called a white knight, but we Masculinists call a 13th century Male. He is living in an archaic world where men have to rush in to defend women at the slightest PERCEIVED slight. Nevermind that this post is about feminists and not women and never mind that it is about feminists trying to shame men and NOT an attempt to shame feminists. He will still rush in.
But then, as with all 13th century males, when you read on you find out that he has in fact a VERY LOW opinion of women, and not just a low opinion of Men. First he calls them manipulative BY NATURE which is an incredibly low thing for one Human Being to say of another Human Being. The woman has no say so in her being manipulative, it is in her NATURE. She has no CHOICE, she is a CHILD. That is how he views women. He also sees them as WEAKER than men, though it has been demonstrated time and again that women are more violent than men, more aggressive, are wont to use weapons often and even in one on one fights against a man can and do win. The Keltoi women fought regularly with our Men. The Turkish women leaped into battle after all of their Men had been killed AND WONT THE FUCKING BATTLE. So to pretend that women have no strength is to perpetuate the very stereotypes he accuses us of.
But let us notice one more way he strips from women their agency. NOW that HE acts a certain way, he gets laid all the time. So the WOMEN have NO agency in the choice of fucking him. No, it is HIS choice and he decides it based on his actions. The WOMEN do not decide. Not only that, he speaks of his getting laid as an important thing demonstrating his “maturity”. In other words HIS maturity depends ENTIRELY upon what WOMEN do. So he places FULL responsibility for HIS OWN maturity upon WOMANKIND. HE THEFTS from their their CHOICE. If no woman had sex with him he would not be mature.
And this is exactly what you see in 13th century males. They use 19th and 20th century language to IMPLY that they think Men and women are equal but when you deconstruct their language you find out that they actually HATE and DESPISE women and think women are nothing but pieces of garbage and useless shits only fit for proving a man is mature by fucking him. This 13th century Male mentality is sickening. It is insulting to Men and it is insulting to women. Why do feminists tolerate it? Because they benefit.
THose of us on this page, whether we believe in equality or not, demand from those that demand equality, that they act equal. Change your own damned lightbulbs, move your own fucking desks, raise and pay for the children YOU have decided to steal from the other parent, have you own god damned jobs, pay your own bills, create your own electricity, build your own roads, mine your own ore. And ACTUAL equality like that is DANGEROUS to feminists because they are lazy and refuse to measure up.
September 18, 2012 at 3:40 am
Ldoucette1959
Poor Boo-Boo is having a problem getting on with other’s. Meds much?
October 13, 2013 at 5:13 am
Rachurl
I hear what you’re saying.
I realised recently that, as a woman, very often when I thought men were just doing nice things for me, they were actually “paying” me for my presence. If we want equality, we have to challenge this transactional system which treats a woman as an object to be “hired”, via the buying of drinks or the provision of free room and board, or favours around the house. That’s going to be unpleasant for us, because it requires that we refuse to accept things that make our lives nicer.
If we want equality, we have to reject the advantages it gives us as well as the disadvantages.
December 4, 2013 at 2:07 am
Julia Nerves
Men and women are also individuals. Now should someone only use eletricity, clothes, buy houses and cars, listen to music and so on only if someone of the same gender, race, sexuality or whatever made it? Please, don’t be that asinine.So what if a man or a woman, a black or a white, an American or an European made/created it – it wasn’t YOU. We should be thankful for them, but not assume we have something to do with it, because we don’t.
I’m thankful for the women that fought for the rights I have now; but I don’t pretend being one of them or take pride as if I was one of them.
And you are wrong is so many things… so many… but whatever I say you will interpret wrongly, acuse me of whatever, call me names and still say you are right.
You are also American-centered. Women around the world have other experiences, have other jobs and so on.
September 18, 2012 at 7:40 am
Ldoucette1959
All their whines sound like bitter drudges who can’t get a date much less have a relationship. Social misfits wanting to blame their banality on someone else. Go cry about it—I come here to be entertained. Grown ass men wind bagging about how they worry whether anyone is going to respect them. !! No. No one is going to. Respect is earned. Frickin mental defectives better stick together. These men arn’t of any use to anyone but each other. Hilarious how serious they are. Aww…….
September 18, 2012 at 8:05 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
None of us talked about being respected.
October 14, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Mark
Point taken Sir!……..now go feed your cats!
April 21, 2013 at 5:08 pm
poester99
Why are you obsessed with giving (poisoned) relationship “advice” on a blog about female shaming tactics?
September 22, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Lee
Women aren’t physically weaker, though. We take better care of our bodies, handle pain better, and live longer.
January 6, 2013 at 11:35 am
Pvt Puentes
LoL. Is that why they let women in the combat zone in Afghanistan? No; it is a known scientific fact that men are physically superior to women. Just google “androgen”. Also, saying that women take better care of their bodies is a generalisation. I could easily make a claim that men are better painters based on the fact that my male friend is a good painter. Doesn’t give it any merit now , does it?
February 13, 2013 at 4:15 am
terry
Lol. is that why men couldnt physically handle having babies, why they die sooner? being able to (usually) handle combat better isnt “superiority”. the fact that most men consider the female body a goddess meant to be chased and earned, well… you guys sort of prove that yourselves. but hey, whatever makes you feel better when your right hand gets sore.
April 21, 2013 at 5:10 pm
poester99
Maybe when your wrote “women” you meant to write “feminsts”. Because I’ve met women that are not like that at all.
July 24, 2012 at 7:18 pm
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August 6, 2012 at 8:27 pm
george
Hello to all men brothers. Please join Quora.com a Question and Answers site where each question is unique, no duplicates. And lets educate people, with no fighting and good intentions, starting with the men at the top, it is a very smart community. Welcome.
August 9, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Anonymous
…I for one am up for the conversation. Among males, these discussions should happen. They should be done behind closed doors. There are a number of considerations that are important to discuss, including negative points of view. Such views can be very educational and useful for adult males.
October 13, 2012 at 10:36 am
Bifocal
The late stages of Feminism (80’s-90’s) became very closed door to males. Are you proposing a male-only equivalent? How could this be achieved under the current anti-discrimination rules without having to declare ourselves as Gay? I welcome any ideas which allow men to discuss their own issues without having to deal with Feminist trolls!
December 13, 2012 at 8:37 pm
traviata
You will be welcome to join any feminist gathering ….. provided you don’t expect to ‘run the show’.
The ‘late stages of Feminism (80.s -90’s)? What do you mean? Is this, perhaps, your wishful thinking?
Feminism is here to stay and grow, as long as there is patriarchy.
Let’s work together to knock …. patriarchy down. Then, and only then, will feminism become irrelevant and obsolete. Not before.
December 30, 2012 at 10:59 am
bifocal
Reply to Traviata: “Let’s work together to knock …. patriarchy down.”
My dear Traviata, I think you have been just as hoodwinked as the rest of us (including males) when you claim that Patriarchy is the problem.
Patriarchy is only a symptom of a far greater problem; Corporate domination is the real culprit and you will find educated women as much as men working for this self-serving entity of global domination at all costs. It is corporate greed which is destroying our community life.
As much as it makes great Hollywood screenplays; it is not the aged, demented old grandfathers determined to keep women out of the workforce, which is lowering women’s values! It is a global phenomenon: Corporations which aim to reduce labour costs to such a level that they can compete with non-union/slave labour pay scales in countries like China and Bangladesh are causing the real problems!
As a Feminist, you are doing no one a service by labouring the tired old argument against Patriarchy. You might as well rail against the atrocities of Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini. There is no patriarchy, other than the privileged few (male & female). who own everything that we plebs once communally owned but had no idea of its final economic value!
If you have a fight in you, stop fighting your partners and start fighting the deadbeats who are stealing your natural inheritance!
January 2, 2014 at 7:37 am
James. B
This reply might be a little late but I must say bifocal, in my opinion you are spot on. I commend your research skills!
August 14, 2012 at 7:48 am
Machismo Mac
I have practically had all the shaming tactics used against me and what makes it so sad that some of the shamers are men. I consider myself as a more reserved alpha male type yet, I get frowned on whenever I express my alpha maleness. Whenever I write any forums that tells the brutal and honest truth about the male perspective on relationships. I get censured by women and men who are trying to earn brownie points. Ive been called sexist, chauvanist, and misogynist whenever I expose the follies or shatter some myth about women.
August 18, 2012 at 3:45 pm
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September 18, 2012 at 3:37 am
Ldoucette1959
I’m in favor of all you hater guys voting to never have another relationship with a woman—-stick together, and stay away from women. Enjoy your hatred together. No woman would/ should care to be around you. This will defintely make life easier.
September 18, 2012 at 6:34 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
No one here is hating cupcake. And you know it.
Notice how ze has to claim no woman WOULD be around us. Uh huh.
Prove it.
September 18, 2012 at 7:57 am
Ldoucette1959
Best entertainment of mental defectives on display anywhere. You guys are only important to each other—Maybe some fluffy alpha male will call You cupcake! Hilarious entertainment! When’s the Revolution, Cupcake? Hey, look out the window—maybe the mother ship is here for you. No? Oh well. Puff out the chest—-demand some respect! Hey, I know….maybe you’re really Napoleon. And keep the noise down—or your mom won’t let you live in her basement. Hey, I heard if you keep a toad in your pocket, it will keep the cooty girls away. Try it, cupcake.
September 18, 2012 at 8:02 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
You realize I am gay right? Aoirthoirgay. So why would I be bothered by some alpha male making me his cupcake?
Try again sugartin.
September 22, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Lee
Time to get a life, you deluded fruitcake.
April 21, 2013 at 5:14 pm
poester99
Notice how this tag team is like a bunch of high-school girls, showing the true ugly darkness within themselves, like the girls (and boys) that recently drove that girl in Nova Scotia to suicide.
They are well practiced in their attempt at emotional abuse so surely they have used it against others.
December 4, 2013 at 2:20 am
Nerves
Did you just mean that no alpha male could ever like men?
BTW, is the story of your abuser mother true? If so, how did it feel? Did you enjoy it?
September 18, 2012 at 9:00 am
Bifocal
I think what you mean Ldouchette59 is that you not only support same sex marriages but they should be mandatory and child-making/rearing should be a clinical and political affair? … No? Just a plain old misandrist are you. I suspect you would take this Cleopatra Syndrome to brand new heights. Oh what fun it is watching irrational fundamentalists cut their noses off to save their faces.
September 22, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Lee
That’s what you need to believe to justify your hatred, ignorance, confusion, and just plain pathetic existence. Get a life, boy, then you wouldn’t need to blame successful, happy women for YOUR many problems and issues.
October 9, 2012 at 11:01 am
Bifocal
Oh dear Lee, I think I’ve come across your vitriol here before. And I think I can assume you are terribly young, naieve, indoctrinated and not very smart. By all means try to fool me but beware little girl your lack of experience in the real world is bound to catch you up. You may well have a lot to shout about but I seriously doubt you have the substance to personally back it up and even less to get angry about: Until you’ve lived some real life, I think we will all assume you are nothing but a troll.
February 13, 2013 at 4:18 am
terry
You’re gay?
bwahahahaha. you shouldn’t have admitted that. this just explains miles and miles. Cupcake.
June 5, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Leonardo Silva
It’s nice how only feminists used shaming tactics here.
“Nafalt…”
September 24, 2012 at 4:57 pm
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October 8, 2012 at 6:58 am
John Brown
To counter feminist aggression against men, the following are:
A Men’s Rights Department in the Goverment to monitor feminist activity in all aspects of society and counter it if necessary.
Very defined limits drawn up as to how many women should be employed in each industry and the numbers kept below these limits.
A Men’s Studies Departments in every University to counter feminist propaganda and define the way forward in theoretical terms.
A Men’s Education Department in the Government to redefine the education system so that is it constructive for boys and cannot be undermined by feminists.
A charter of Men’s Employment which defines precisely what HR Departments can do and brings them before the law if they attempt to undermine men at work.
October 11, 2012 at 11:13 am
Bifocal
It sounds drastic but John Brown has a point: This is exactly how Feminism usurped its mandate for equality and snowballed into hegemonic dominance of social structures to benefit their obvious but anonymous and undefined majority membership.
Feminism as a political movement has reached it’s limit and like many despots around the world will continue to strike out at its adversaries for irrational reasons, with illogical and hypocritical tactics.
Don’t be fooled; the one thing they cannot do is debate honestly: If you use the sciences of reason; biology, chemistry and physics and have a basic knowledge of art, sociology, culture and philosophy; you can’t go wrong! Just make sure you’ve got your facts right.
After all, the Feminists have not invented anything that accredited sociologists, bio-chemists, philosophers and astro-phycisists have not already discovered!
Stand up as men and stop being pussy-whipped by ignorance and hypocrisy.
October 14, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Mark
Don’t worry my friend……..all the Femi-Nazism garbage is starting backfire on these cunts. Marriage is down by over 65% in the last decade.We are having a fertility crisis also….we have to bring in immigrants because the population is unable to sustain itself…….wait until we have massive layoffs in the government sector(which is where most of the Femi-Losers work)…..Men start business’s…..women want a government job(cradle to grave)….just like the Family court system!….83% of women in North America who have money did via widowing or divorcing!…shows you alot about the moron’s business acumen! We are going to see these “Femi-Nazi’s running to men for help!….and we get to say “Fuck you” and walk away!…..It is already happening in Australia,New Zealand and Canada!….just be patient!…want to read a good blog….here is ….http://thebitterbabe.wordpress.com/..what is happening…and is accelerating….looks good on the pigs!
July 14, 2013 at 8:36 pm
womenarescum
The sooner the marriage is destroyed the better. Women hold all the cards in a marriage anyway, so that’s all the more reason to destroy it.
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October 23, 2012 at 11:01 am
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December 11, 2012 at 7:07 pm
AProudWoman
This is amazing. The language of oppression has been co-opted by men and they are blaming feminists for problems that we should, as PEOPLE, as HUMANS, be addressing. We are all the same species, guys! Raising up ALL of us should be the concern, not scrabbling for power in a world dominated by the 1% (as a note, they are overwhelmingly male). @Aoirthoir An Broc, I am sorry that your mother raped you as a child. That said, your views are one-sided and lacking in critical thinking. Your anecdotal evidence and non-existent grasp on history only betray you as angry and small-minded.
I came here to see if men have a point when they rage against feminism. I am sad to say that you have clung to the extremists waving the flag of feminism and thereby discounted the entire movement. Not all women are feminists, not all feminists are militant, not all militant feminists hate men. If you feel differently, perhaps you need to take a look inside and ask yourselves why “fairness” is such a terrifying concept. Feminism is the radical notion that women are people. Men AND women are hurt by this strict enforcement of “the way things are supposed to be” and say nothing about the incredible variety of humankind, the personalities and foibles and general awesomeness.
For those of you who have felt “shamed,” (particularly since they are colour-coded!) maybe you should ask yourselves what views you were expressing at the time, and how you came across. Condescension is insulting; women do not owe you their respect either.
For those who will respond to this with hatred and poison… I pity you. I’m sorry that you go through life with such anger. I’m sorry you refuse to understand, or even try to understand, that feminism is searching for ways to dismantle socio-political structures that cause EVERYONE to be hurt, by the weight of expectation, by actual physical violence, by self-harm and internalized restrictions from peers and parents. I feel sorry for you, but I am not sorry that I am a feminist.
April 21, 2013 at 5:36 pm
poester99
Nice attempt to say you are not with them. The angry man haters, female supremacists are the engine that drives the movement, which creates the actual laws that are meant to punish men, and men only, and by agreement tacit or more often now completely in the open to exclude women from any accountability.
How about that new law being considered in the UK, “Causing a Suicide by Abuse”. Apparently this will ONLY be applied to men. Women, who tend to be much better at non-physical abuse will be exempt. This despite the horrific numbers of suicides among men and especially young men.
Women like you would label them inherently “defective”,
Like labeling the average women that doesn’t get paid as much as the average man, incompetent, or less skilled, or less dedicated, or more apt to choose life work balance, or go into safer occupations
Oh no that’s NOT possible it MUST be because the system is sexist.
The endless bullshit is disgusting but the one directional gender war has at last been joined. Lots of young smart guys are not defaulting to putting women on pedestal and calling them on their BS.
December 4, 2013 at 2:40 am
Nerves
It won’t be applied only to men. So your point in invalid.
Yes, because it’s only women that say BS about men, and it’s women that are men’s biggest oppressors, in daily life or politics! Yes, keep dreaming.
December 21, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Mary
All I can say is truly act like a man. Treat women with respect and you shouldn’t have problems. Somewhere down the line you stopped taking responsibility for your actions and you choose to blame what is happening to women. Meanwhile, women are working to improve themselves and they are leaving you in the dust. Hatred is a poisonous disease.
December 29, 2012 at 11:03 am
bifocal
I agree with you Mary hatred is a poison, however I think you need to understand men a lot more than you do. All males face a paradigm which most women do not understand: Male roles are defined either by nature or by society and puberty is usually the time communities decide where new men are to perform. Of course there is freedom of choice, but there are numerous institutional influences (including family) which often get things wrong; leaving good men outside the safety system.
Women face similar problems, eg single mothers, but women will always remain within their (chosen) community especially when they are with child.
Where this is not so, you have to blame the culture and the community responsible. This will definitely include male and female ideology.
July 2, 2013 at 6:50 pm
deniz
MARY u r obviously naive , a feminist or both , what do u know about being a man , that u so asininely advise him to “act like a man” you feminist women are all the same you want to be treated with respect even though the thought of respecting men never ever crosses your mind thats just childish ! and its never going to happen give respect to get respect when feminists respect men only then will men reciprocate,you talk about responsibility but are probably not even aware that nowadays men are held responsible for womens choices ! and women dont have to take responsibility for anything they can just blame men for anything ! hatred is indeed poisonous venomous feminist are soon going to get a taste of their own medicine ! thats a promise !
August 26, 2013 at 11:07 pm
womenarescum
Mary, don’t make me laugh. Men are better in areas that requires the use of logic, intelligence, empirical thinking and other problem solving, actually useful traits.
Women are good at being psychotic, hormonally imbalanced lunatics.
November 20, 2013 at 7:29 pm
jh
Have control, not laugh.oh shut up.men are better rant.dont go on.No they are not.Such things cant be measured accurately and never have been.You are not a woman how do you know what women are like.Though your rant is neurotic.Psychosis is ‘loss of contact with reality’ which you appear to be suffering from for the whole population of women is not suffering for schizophrenia etc.but you clearly do if you meant what you wrote.Also dude no one is hormonally imbalanced.the body of human controls their levels etc so thats wrong.the human body’s hormonal activity is perfect.it changes yes but thats the way its supposed to be.how about you going and opening a biology book,try any O Levels one.Lunatics we are not really we are sane fine functioning people.dont lie,use logic to win an argument not personal comments abuses and reactionary extremisim and hate speech thats bad.I also saw you abusing some one call’Lee’.I read part of what she had to say.You behaviour is appalling and acidic and toxic.if I could i’d just wipe it clean.
December 4, 2013 at 2:47 am
Nerves
Prove it.
Oh, you can’t, because that’s not true. It’s actually proved women are as good, sometimes better, than men in all “useful traits”. What a shame, right?
And men don’t even have to be hormonally imbalanced to act like psychotics, or worse, psycopaths. Ouch.
December 29, 2012 at 10:17 am
bifocal
Very noble elucidation Rich. The only problem is that equality does not exist: Never has and never will. Whether gender differences (the biological distribution of male and female hormones) can ever be accepted by the rabid political nazis is truly another question. By natures own empiricism, there can never be equality: There can however be respect, that is a human trait.
December 30, 2012 at 9:06 pm
traviata
bifocal
Yes, differences, even significant differences between women and men, do exist, but they are complementary rather than …… complimentary. Historically, men had stolen all the positives for themselves and used both nature and culture to justify the unfair usurpation of qualities which makes us human.
We were displeased with the division and divisiveness. It is high time to make peace, to seek equitable distribution of good qualities and to share responsibilities for the mess we are in.
Power with accomplihes much, power over is destructive.
BBC Radio 4 has a “woman`s hour”. Some men complained about it, even though the other 23 hours were (men’s) hours. Can you concede that the complainants are unreasonable?
January 8, 2013 at 10:31 am
Bifocal
Traviata,
your comment that gender differences are complementary is an elegant ideal! It supports your and (I hope everyone’s) desire for a harmonious humanity made up of both men and women.
However, I disagree on a couple of points and hope you will consider them:
(Excluding the last century for obvious reasons) historically, MEN did not steal anything from WOMEN in particular. Males being what they are, steal from any other being in order to dominate and procreate, including other males and other species. This is how nature evolves and our developing civilisation has only drawn on environmental examples to follow. Initially these examples benefitted females by protecting the genetic evolution within the tribe. We are still tribal beings but now Feminism has decided that women should be a tribe of their own. (Unless female humans were to become hermaphrodites this separatism, or invention of a new species, can never succeed. Just like racial determinism or eugenics, separatism is destined to fail.)
The enemy is NOT men. The divisiveness you feel is no different to the divisiveness I feel. The chasm of division we both feel is about the non-distribution of wealth and status to all citizens. Whether it be autocrats, monarchs or oligarchs, there has always been a select few who control the liberties of others. For as long as men have been the breadwinners, they have been subjected to the tyranny of these few and have adopted such principles in order to survive. But now we are seeing just as many women breadwinners falling into the same traps. It is not the men who are to blame; it is the greedy, corruptible, anti-social, self-serving sociopaths who are responsible. They can be either male or female.
Dominant males are not very nice creatures but they still play a vital role. Just like the ‘last sexual partner on a deserted island’ scenario; many uneducated, alienated and disenfranchised women will see the dominant male as a good partner because he alone has dominated, excelled or survived. And his genes combined with hers will keep her species alive. And remember it is only the comfortable, educated and intellectual individuals who deliberately choose not to procreate. Most cultures still tend to see fertility as a blessing.
Regarding your Woman’s Hour comment, I am sure using Feminist principles, I could find far more worthy examples than this – (take ABC Radio National and its decade of ‘womens interest studies’ which dominated airplay for most daytime hours of every day during the 1990’s). The question Traviata is: Were the other 23 hours of airplay really just for the men who were supposedly so busy creating dominions over women, or were they for human beings who didn’t give a flying fuck about gender politics because they knew that the world/planet earth faces far greater problems, including the support of real women in other parts of the world, and would rather focus on humanitarian/environmental issues which actually have some substance and foundation?
November 20, 2013 at 7:36 pm
jh
first of all lets clear sth.In biology there are sexual differences not gender differences for hormones,genes etc dont dictate gender.Gender is a social construct.Well yes if equality means we all become same in a sense of identical copies that may not be a possibility or I dont know sth.But having a vagina should not mean you are dumb,subservant and having a penis shouldnt mean you are dumb or a subservant.if a woman does not have a penis a man also doesnt have a vagina.If its bad for one to have sth its bad for the other to not have it.we dont want identicalism we want respect,as you say.
December 29, 2012 at 9:19 pm
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January 21, 2013 at 3:03 pm
Anthony
There is a HUGE point missing that I expected to see extensively covered in this.
I guess I’d call it something like, ancestral guilt, or historical blame. This is an attack purely based on the primitive past relationship between men and women:
– “Did you know that is has only been just over 50 years since women were allowed to vote!?”
– “Women were treated like servants during the early 20th century, am I your servant?”
– “don’t make jokes about me getting into that gym for free because I’m a woman”
These attacks suggest that we had some sort of control over what happened to our ancestors. We have nothing to do with our simple-minded ancestors, some of which believed women shouldn’t vote, have jobs, etc. that was then and this is now, stop clinging to the past. No level-headed individual in this day and age thinks like that, and people who do are shunned, not praised. Secondly, men these days also realize that our testosterone does not directly affect our decision making when it comes to beautiful women, as well we don’t assume all women are going to use the power of attraction to achieve goals quicker. These are not the behaviors of typical men and women, although one could say it exists with the simple minded.
One last one I guess would be the reminder of her stance, or some sort of threat to have you be stifled. I call it the “showing of the badge and pointing of the gun”:
– “you better watch what you say, I’m a hardcore feminist you know.”
– “I don’t think you have an intelligent enough viewpoint on these issues to maintain a friendship with me”
The first quotation is a blatant beating of the chest, as to silence the man’s argument. Nobody should be forced to feel like they’re walking on eggshells when talking to a member of the opposite sex, and the warning of active feminism does just that. Lastly, to assume and imply that men do not understand the issues surrounding equality, or aren’t intelligent enough to do so, is quite simply unfair and insulting. These are the kinds of things that label men as unintelligent sexist brutes.
We all need to work together to promote equality. Over-Feminism will just send the progress back the other way and make men resentful. Don’t punish men of this generation for things they haven’t done. You want to be angry at someone, then go to a nursing home or a cemetary because you’ll find more shovenists there, than you’ll find out on the street
February 5, 2013 at 10:49 am
Bifocal
It’s “Chauvinist” Anthony: Sorry to be a pedant, but your words will have more value if you spell them correctly.
July 15, 2013 at 6:22 pm
womenarescum
bifocal, again you speak bullshit. Why do you speak so much crap?
February 8, 2013 at 6:15 pm
scatmaster
You do realize that men couldn’t vote either.
It was only aristocracy that could vote.
Somehow the suffragettes and society seems to forget that.
Hmmm.
January 22, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RCMP
The world is a bitching, bastard, just put the blame on your GOD, who ever that may be !!! what a world we live in. can’t we all just try to get along with one another? I get just a little annoyed at people who have nothing else to do but complain, so I just walk away. GIVE PEACE A CHANCE !!! JUST LOVE ONE ANOTHER AND GET OVER IT !!!
January 23, 2013 at 12:07 pm
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February 13, 2013 at 2:34 am
terry
To some of these rather hysterical comments from guys…. so basically, unless anyone (males too but mostly those wicked, wicked women) 100% backs up what you say, they are just flat out wrong, trying to shame you, trying to argue with you, trying to attack you, are just wrong no matter what they say. they say the sky is blue, you’ll get on their case and tell them no, it’s green!
It’s as irrational as any radical feminist argument. you’re just looking for excuses to blame women, because some woman sometime blamed you, or many did, or you just hate women. if a woman blames men, she’s bitter or a b*tch. if a man blames women, he’s sympathetic and a victim of hateful women. I never see anyone but feminists take feminists seriously… except for a few white knights of course.
inb4 a herd of guys accuses me of being a feminist, trying to shame them, using a straw man argument against their own straw man arguments, etc.
Lol, some of you just aren’t gonna let me get away with this comment alive.
April 21, 2013 at 5:44 pm
poester99
Shame much? Any why do you internalize all this unless you feel guilt for using these misandric and misanthropic tools yourself?
Yes, continue trying to convince everybody that the earth is flat….
February 14, 2013 at 3:32 am
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Using these series correctly it is apparently possible to put these people into a state of seizure.
The series begins here.
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November 20, 2013 at 7:41 pm
jh
It can also be used against misognists by women;feminist or what ever.For that matter if anyone behaves in the manner the article highlights it can be used then.
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Father Marker
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July 30, 2013 at 4:40 pm
newenglandsun
Loved this article. Although feminism to me has always been about the equality of all (giving both men and women a chance to speak), I have seen some feminists (like my older sister) take it so far to impose a stereotype on men that seems to make us guys their slaves. Not only that, but also to give them a right to commit child neglect via abortion like some fathers do and get guys landed in jail when they are accused of raping someone (hello…don’t they understand that even women are capable of lying about being raped sometimes?). Not that I’m saying that the rape thing is bad, I’m just saying that I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to find out that there are women who lie about being raped to get a guy who didn’t do something they wanted thrown in jail. Of course, it seems that my mom and my sister forget that men are also the victims of the rape (but this cannot be since only women get raped).
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August 2, 2013 at 2:58 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
I suggest you read The Fraud of Feminism, by the First Self Identified Masculinist, Ernest Belfort Bax.
January 6, 2014 at 7:49 am
thinkpink414
Feminist and misandrist are two different things. Feminist fight for their right to be man’s equal. Misandrist fight against man because they think they are better. Some feminists are actually misandrist in disguise but most are not. Maybe you all should read up on both sides of the fence.
May 11, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Rohan Roger David Zener
I sometimes self-identify as (and even simulate) a “Virinazi”; the gender reversal of a Feminazi who thus believes that men are (and have always been) supreme over women, but unlike the Feminazis, Virinazis are honest about what they really want (male supremacy). Mostly i was just putting up a satire. But i do fear i’m slipping down that slope already.
November 20, 2013 at 8:05 pm
jh
The right was not yours to give.The women has the right to carry out affairs of her body what ever they may be ,however they may be ,with what ever or who ever they may be with.you cant give that right because its not yours to give.I can not give you the right to fertilize an egg while you have sex.and i can not give a women a right to abort or not that zygote.And really child neglect?there is no child.the definition of child is anyone between birth and puberty.since the zygote hasnt been born its not a child and abortions are of an unconceived embryo and then fetus.And to say a woman who had sex then lied about rape to get back or what ever.such misleading and lies can happen in other senarios as well.and people are raped as well so they are true.but the police does check and in face of evidence prosecution takes place.its gross injustice to claim that because people can lie about sth the actual crimes penalization be undermined or affected in any way.i can also lie someone stole my stuff when they didnt,i can also lie someone murdered a person.this way we can lie about every law in the book and fabricate info.but their are controls in place to check such behavior.why are you so concerned about false imprisonment in a rape case and not other crimes.their sentences can be more lengthy and lies easier to fabricate.this does not stop in preventing prosecution of other crimes then why should the same reason be a critical point in rape crime cases.this reason is not a critical point in other crimes why should it be out of proportions in rape crime cases.if other crimes can be penalized so can it .And i disagree that men cant be raped,men can be raped by other men or women.and so can women raped by other women and men.With copulation and without.remember the pope who raped young boys.
December 17, 2013 at 6:38 pm
newenglandsun
Ah. Poor feminist. Fighting a losing battle.
May 11, 2015 at 2:14 pm
Rohan Roger David Zener
The right to life is not women’s to give either; it is inherent in all life, yet it seems to me that some women are so morally deplorable, that they are unworthy of life and hence, to be disposable. Just look to the mothers who beat and/or kill their children, girlfriends who cry “rape” (and wolf) in a vindictive quest against their exboyfriends, etcetera. The worst kind is the insidious Feminists like Kari Buron, who write about psychology and social etiquette. Luckily though, they can still be detected; they tell only boys how to behave.
July 30, 2013 at 11:08 pm
assoonasitis
There is a LOAD of shit on here, I’m not reading it all. I’m gonna come back at you with one of your own arguments, just for the sake of understanding what you’re about. You ask how a pro-male agenda inherently becomes anti-female, yeah? How does a pro-female agenda inherently become anti-male? Like I said, not trying to be a smart-ass here, just wondering where you’re comic from. Right up.
December 17, 2013 at 6:38 pm
newenglandsun
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August 2, 2013 at 2:56 am
Aoirthoir An Broc, Masculinist
An agenda that claims all Men are rapists, is not a pro-female agenda. An agenda that claims only men can stop rape, which ignores ALL male victims of female abusers, is not pro-female. An agenda that claims the male is merely a broken female is not pro-female.
Prominent feminist ideologues have written far more than this and worse.
Now on the other hand saying “all males are NOT rapists…” or saying “RAPISTS can stop rape including female rapists…” or saying “males and females are not by virtue of their gender broken….” is not anti-female.
And that is the difference.
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Every single one of these shaming tactics is used against me when I say something as simple as “women should not rape infants either…” If feminism were about equality and good things for women it would inherently agree with that and not automatically try to claim that I am somehow bad and evil because I think NO person should be raped.
Now before you come at me and claim no no no no no no that doesn’t happen, uh yes, it does happen. This is my LIVED experience.
January 6, 2014 at 7:43 am
thinkpink414
No amount of abuse is okay. No amount of stop rape talk will stop it. It cant be stopped by appealing to men or women. Rape is about a violation of an individual. Reasons for control, superiority, power, or because the abuser can. But to invalidate the amount of victims are primarily women by saying that sometimes the abuser is a woman- is both obsured and you lose credibility. Factually women are raped by men most of the time. Its fact. It does not mean that women should get over it and it does not mean that men should ignore it when it happens to them. But it is still fact.
January 6, 2014 at 7:58 am
thinkpink414
You are so illogical and you try to disguise it with wording. You said these shaming tactics are used against you when you bring up the argument “women shouldn’t rape infants either” this argument is a put down in itself. Of course she shames you when your point comes off as women in general rape infants? Duh. This says to her “men rape adult women. But women rape babies!” Do you not understand that your anti-feminism attacks are actually anti-female? Do you not realize that you use shaming tactics? Do you not understand anything besides what’s in your head?
Also if you are so pro-people and not against women, why have you or any other men gone off/attacked posters below like MIKE? He is the exact type that makes your fight harder. He is a sick *** individual with rapist rants but you let it slide. Why? – because he’s a guy?
August 5, 2013 at 7:09 pm
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I’m going to punch you in the face so hard that the sheer amount kinetic energy behind the impact will be enough eradicate you from existence, and the excessive energy will still be great enough to disturb the space/time continuum, smashing your face at past, present, and in every alternative future where your fat ass is still alive, at the same time.
Then i will rape the asshole of your corpse with such vigour, that the power of my orgasm will be powerful enough to create a singularity in your ass, turning your gaping rectum into a black hole, from which only manliness and my cum can escape.
And when i plunge my hand in that black hole, it will the hand of the God of Abraham that reaches back from the other side, so that i can bro-fist the only other person in omniverse that is my equal in manliness, while fist-fucking your worthless corpse.
So lick some lesbian pussy, you clinically obese, mentally deranged, lard assed little shit.
You are nothing, insect.
November 20, 2013 at 8:24 pm
jh
such behavior shows that misogynism is a big problem.and sick individuals abuse women and are just vile.she is not nothing she is a human being and there is nothing higher than that.and she is not an insect she is a primate.your biology is very bad or perhaps it loss with reality or both.Licking pussy is not a bad thing its good for those who want to do it its their choice.its perfectly good,there is nothing wrong with it and those who want to engage in it well and good.even if she is obese that is not ugliness or badness in anyway.whether its healthy or not is sth.but you are being discriminatory not health conscious.mental derangement is synonyms with psychosis,a word you use again and again.like schizophrenia.being schizophrenic doesnt make you a sub human.its a mental condition and there is nothing more to it.being one doesn’t mean you are to be ashamed.your insensitive vile behavior is just foul.and lard is pig fat and can not be in a human.really dude perhaps your brain has reversed things,ur delusional sick mind is convinced of such things as truth and you have lost touch with reality.but then again you are just an abuser.
May 11, 2015 at 2:06 pm
Rohan Roger David Zener
Code Black! Have at her, equalists!
December 4, 2013 at 3:23 am
Native American
At least you will kill her first, so not that much torture.
And just thank you very much for proving us how men are naturally violent, even more against weaker people, instinctly rapists and necrophilies (and pedophilies, but you just didn’t say you will rape her young daughter as well, even though I know you would). Thank you really much, that’s really important – a lot of women are still blind about this and will actually believe the old LIE men tell us everyday: that they aren’t naturally attracted to humiliating, torturing, killing and raping women (or other men and children). Ha, what a lie, you guys just love it and dream about it everyday!
Also, see the differences: men haters just want to live away from men most of the times, while women haters just want to rape them. Ah, men are so nice!
Thank you, again!
Ps.: something wrong with “lesbian pussy”? Didn’t you know gay shaming doesn’t work with regular straight women (or lesbians)? lol.
March 19, 2014 at 6:37 am
The Yellow Dragon
Proving what? How do one person can prove that men are naturally violent? You think that men are scum and women are angels? Go suck a nut, dipshit Mangina. Men haters don’t just want to live far away from men, those failures at life spit hate at men in general and like to think themselves higher than men.
May 11, 2015 at 2:07 pm
Rohan Roger David Zener
Whoa. That’s over-the-top for a threat. Better get Hawking to educate you on astrophysics.
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October 3, 2013 at 5:15 pm
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I agree, women can be just as sexist as men. I class myself as a feminist but am not sure that I am proud to do so in the current day and age seeing as feminism can be taken way too far. I understand some of the things that get women riled up BUT surely men are sexualised just as much as women are and made to feel inadequate.
October 22, 2013 at 7:29 pm
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January 6, 2014 at 7:33 am
thinkpink414
Feminism is not anti-male. Feminists do not hate men. Feminist simply want all (male, female, and transgender) to have equality. The idea that feminism is some hate-group was created by controlling men that did not want their wives, sisters, moms, daughters, speaking out- it was not their right. These same men are the type of men that most reasonable men couldn’t stand to be in the same room with. But the word got out and spread and now any rights activist for women must be acting in hate. Its ridiculous.
I see so many comments by men that say stuff like, “that pig feminist,” “that dike b__th,” “man eating wh_re” or the worse “women are cum dumpsters.” And the few and far between comments from men standing up for women and what do you men do?.. attack them, call them faggots, call them carpet munching sissy. But your on here complaining because a woman tells you to man up during a disagreement about how you are better because you’re a man.?! Wtf? Really…
To be clear, I do not hate men. I have 2 of the most amazing men in my life- my hubby and my son. What I do hate is self righteous good for nothing men, boohooing about a woman hurting your feelings, a woman won in court, a woman charges men with rape (really), and to be frank- a woman is not the reason you are unhappy. You are miserable because of you. You didn’t do enough. You didn’t succeed. You lost in court. You are your enemy. Women are 1/2 the population. The world sucks because of shitty, greedy, sociopathic, sick minded freaks! Not women and not men.
So MAN/WOMAN UP OR SHUT UP!
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November 1, 2013 at 3:00 am
Veronica
When your husband has been distant for almost a year, how does a wife find out what is happening? When questioned he gets angry? Am I unjustified in asking is there another woman?
November 3, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Anonymous
Can you please add a “print this article” option for those of us who want to share your articles with older men in the same situations but who don’t use the internet much? Thank You.
November 11, 2013 at 7:07 pm
Chris
I dislike ad hominim attacks and also other forms of logical fallacies in forming or defending an opinion or stance. I think there should be classes in logic so people don’t resort to them. If it is possible for you to imagine a world where 99% of all authors, writers, engineers, scientists, political leaders,
philosophers, religions and religious leaders are female. To imagine a world where the military and weapons are pretty much exclusively owned and controlled by females. The wealth, resources, transportation, industries, companies and corporations are 90% female controlled and owned. All religions have a female diety and require worship and obedience to. That until very recently, men were not allowed education, allowed to have outside jobs and be paid for work, allowed to have or own money or property. That all of history and interpretations are written from a female perspective, that you learn in school and everywhere else. If you truly can imagine that-would you find it inconcievable that some men might try for male rights against their intrenched historical and economic and every other kind of disadvantages?
What would you think you think of a female in that society who out of all the oppourtunities they are MORE free and able to choose to be and do what they want to choose to attack those efforts?
Just try a thought experiment, thats all.
November 23, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Nest
I think your husband is cheating on you. think about this matter before you decide what you’re doing. Men are different from women, you know? Most men can’t live without women. However, women can live without men. In other words, men think about sex all the time.
December 10, 2013 at 12:36 am
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December 17, 2013 at 7:07 am
Guest
Here is a leaked disciplinary letter about Gordy Stefulic. How can this be libel when it is a document from the Ontario College of Teachers?
DISCIPLINE COMMITTEE OF THE ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TEACHERS
BETWEEN:
ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TEACHERS
and
GORDANA ANNE STEFULIC
NOTICE OF HEARING
THE INVESTIGATION COMMITTEE OF THE ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TEACHERS, pursuant to section 26, subsection (5) of the Ontario College of Teachers Act, 1996 (the Act), Statutes of Ontario, 1996, chapter 12, has directed that the matter hereinafter described regarding the conduct or actions of Gordana Anne Stefulic, Certificate No176236 , be referred to the Discipline Committee of the Ontario College of Teachers.
IT IS ALLEGED that Gordana Anne Stefulic is guilty of professional misconduct as defined in subsections 30(2) and 40(1.1) of the Act in that:
(a) she failed to maintain the standards of the profession, contrary to Ontario
Regulation 437/97, subsection 1(5);
(b) she abused a student or students physically, sexually, verbally, psychologically or emotionally, contrary to Ontario Regulation 437/97, subsection 1(7) and engaged in sexual abuse of a student or students of a nature defined in sections 1 and 40 (1.1) of the Act;
(c) she failed to comply with the Education Act, Revised Statutes of Ontario, 1990, chapter E.2, and specifically section 264(1)(c) thereof or the Regulations made under that Act, contrary to Ontario Regulation 437/97, subsection 1(15);
(d) she committed acts that having regard to all the circumstances would reasonably be regarded by members as disgraceful, dishonourable or unprofessional, contrary to Ontario Regulation 437/97, subsection 1 and
(e) she engaged in conduct unbecoming a Member, contrary to Ontario Regulation
437/97, subsection 1(19).
PARTICULARS OF THESE ALLEGATIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
1. Gordana Anne Stefulic (the Member) is a member of the Ontario College of
Teachers.
2. At all material times, the Member was employed by the Toronto District School Board
(the Board) as a Principal at [XX] School (the School) in Ontario.
3. During the 2007-2008 academic year, the Member granted and/or permitted Student No. 1
and Student No. 2, two male students of the Board under the age of sixteen years, entry
and/or access to her Facebook page and by so doing, allowed Student No. 1 and Student
No. 2 to access inappropriate and/or view material including:
(a) A photographic image of a male person without a shirt, wearing a Speedo bathing suit and titled, Meal of the Day;
(b) A drawing showing a naked woman depicting her breasts and a naked man holding a string which was tied to his well endowed penis.
4. During the 2007-2008 academic year, the Member,
(a) permitted a student and/or students to have access to a personal laptop computer which she knew or ought to have known contained images of a pornographic nature or erotic nature, which appeared to depict young adolescent males;
(b) permitted a student and/or students to have access to the classroom computer which she knew or ought to have known contained pornographic images and/or violent cartoon images and/or images of naked bodies;
(c) requested and/or allowed Student No. 3, Student No. 4 and Student No. 5, male students, to give her a massage; and
(d) made no efforts to deter or prevent a student and/or students from seeking to massage her back.
THE DISCIPLINE COMMITTEE WILL HOLD A HEARING pursuant to sections 30 and 32 of the Ontario College of Teachers Act, 1996, to decide whether the allegations are true and whether Gordana Anne Stefulic is guilty of professional misconduct. A copy of the Rules of Procedure of the Discipline Committee and of the Fitness to Practise Committee will be provided upon request.
THE DISCIPLINE COMMITTEE WILL MEET on Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 9:00 a.m. to set a date for the hearing of this matter. The Committee will meet on the 12th floor of the offices of the Ontario College of Teachers at 101 Bloor Street West, Toronto, Ontario.
YOU ARE ENTITLED TO BE PRESENT ON THE ABOVE MENTIONED DATE AND AT THE HEARING AND TO BE REPRESENTED BY LEGAL COUNSEL.
If you wish, you or your legal counsel may contact College Counsel to discuss the scheduling of a hearing date to determine whether a date for the hearing can be agreed upon. If a date for the hearing can be agreed to, in accordance with Rule 4.02(2) of the Rules of Procedure of the Discipline Committee and of the Fitness to Practise Committee, the hearing will proceed on the agreed date.
IF A DATE FOR THE HEARING OF THIS MATTER IS NOT AGREED UPON AND YOU DO NOT ATTEND TO SET A DATE FOR THE HEARING OF THIS MATTER, THE DISCIPLINE COMMITTEE MAY PROCEED IN YOUR ABSENCE TO SET A DATE FOR THE HEARING. NOTICE OF THE HEARING DATE WILL BE PROVIDED TO YOU IN WRITING AT YOUR LAST KNOWN ADDRESS AS SHOWN IN THE RECORDS OF THE COLLEGE.
IF YOU DO NOT ATTEND ON THE SCHEDULED HEARING DATE, THE DISCIPLINE COMMITTEE MAY PROCEED IN YOUR ABSENCE AND YOU WILL NOT BE PROVIDED WITH ANY FURTHER NOTICE OF PROCEEDINGS.
IF THE DISCIPLINE COMMITTEE FIND YOU GUILTY of professional misconduct, you are liable to the penalties set out in section 30 of the Act.
A MEMBER whose conduct is being investigated in proceedings before the Discipline Committee may examine before the hearing any written or documentary evidence that will be produced or any report, the contents of which will be given as evidence at the hearing. You or your representative may contact the office of Caroline Zayid of McCarthy Tétrault LLP, solicitor for the College in this matter, at Suite 5300, Toronto Dominion Bank Tower, Toronto, ON M5K 1E6, telephone 416-601-
7768.
Date: January 14,2013
Michael Salvatori, OCT
Registrar and Chief Executive Officer
Ontario College of Teachers
12th Floor, 101 Bloor Street West
Toronto, ON M5S 0A1
TO: Gordana Anne Stefulic
[XX] [XX]
AND TO: Calderoni Steer Wanderon McTavish & Smith LLP
2 Sheppard Ave E
North York ON M2N 5Y7
Dale Stump, Solicitor for the
Member
B E T W E E N :
ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TEACHERS and GORDANA ANNE STEFULIC
DISCIPLINE COMMITTEE OF THE ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TEACHERS
NOTICE OF HEARING
McCarthy Tétrault LLP
Suite 5300
Toronto Dominion Bank Tower
Toronto, ON M5K 1E6
Caroline R. Zayid
Tel. 416 601-7768
Fax 416 868-0673
David E. Leonard
Tel. 416 601-7684
Fax 416 868-0673
Solicitors for the
Ontario College of Teachers
#12685381
The Ontario College of Teachers is trying to cover up the stories about upper class female teachers (Gordy Stefulic, Vivian Mavrou, etc) who were caught having inappropriate relations with underaged students. This is why the Ontario Principals’ Council and their cronies are monitoring the internet and are theoretically spying on Canadians as a thought police. Good luck for the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The same teachers who push their explicit Sex-Ed programmes and neo-Commie jargon are the same ones who are trying to enforce the thought police on Canadians.
December 29, 2013 at 11:02 am
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January 6, 2014 at 6:58 am
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Mike… I would love to meet you face to face. Don’t worry- nothing delusional. Just me kicking the shit out of you. Women are submitting to rape because the know they deserve it? You are a sick individual. I hope your mother hasn’t let you out of the basement yet.
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February 11, 2014 at 9:47 pm
ManUp
I won’t get bogged down on all the different points but I’ve this to say:
Any situation where any group of human beings are placed beyond question is a very dangerous one – this causes social cancer – a cancer of bullying and bigotry – this must never be allowed to happen!
All humans are equal and all humans must be treated with dignity!
March 4, 2014 at 4:36 am
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March 5, 2014 at 1:05 am
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month later i got pregnant and gave birth to twins (girls) we now a happy family
March 22, 2014 at 11:19 am
Dendrite
What about “Blaming the Victim”? … For example: “You need to pick the right women?”; “You’re just hanging out with the wrong crowd”; “You should have used a condom”; “You didn’t do enough to keep her happy.” etc.
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March 25, 2014 at 9:35 pm
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April 18, 2014 at 8:37 pm
Anonymous
This is really old, but most of the comments are very ignorant and do not possess much thought to them. Most of what is said, sounds as if they come from a place of hurt and blame. I suggest that you all seek psychiatric help in resolving your issues.
April 20, 2014 at 9:03 am
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May 1, 2014 at 5:58 am
D.S.
You know what makes this article utterly pointless? Anti-feminists use the same lines against feminists ad nauseam, just tweaked a little. “You’re just bitter toward men,” “Shut up and go get laid,” “If you weren’t an ugly feminist bitch somebody might love you,” “You have daddy issues,” and “You’re just a libtard nutjob wacko feminazi,” are among the extremely popular comebacks I’ve heard thrown at feminists countless times.
Fact is, these are lines that all sorts of people use when arguing, especially online. They are not unique to feminism in any way, shape, or form. This article is so silly it almost comes across as a parody.
May 13, 2014 at 3:48 am
Justin Hurst
As long as you acknowledge and accept that this is how the majority of society views you, I guess it’s acceptable. Just remember when you sit alone that you are so because your attitude is on the fringe of society, and that when all you encounter are shallow women or somesuch (yes, as many exists as there are poor examples of manhood), it is because that’s all you see when that’s all you look for, and that those are the only kind who won’t immediately see through you and immediately disassociate themselves.
May 23, 2014 at 12:26 pm
Anonymous
I am ashamed to be a human being, we are haters and murderers and frankly not very nice….. and sometimes f’ugly. I worry about our future if we continue to adopt a ‘them and us’ culture with regards to the sexes. Do you read ? Do you really understand the implications of your hate ? I think not, it is unfortunate that you are too stupid to understand that by winning this argument ….. you lose.
May 26, 2014 at 5:00 am
Greer
why does wordpress let this filth go on? there is no such thing as men’s rights. you are a man, you have all the rights. there are no more rights to be had for you. you are as privileged as they come (if you are white). so kindly fuck off. male entitlement, misogyny, and toxic masculinity are the cause of the vast majority of murders, home invasions, rapes, etc. this cannot stand. it’s simple: don’t fucking hurt other people. keep your hands to yourself unless consent was freely and willingly given. wordpress, I urge you to see how toxic this “exposing feminism” blog is… the attitudes expressed by these “men’s rights activists” are/could be really harmful/lethal to women (and other men) everywhere. this is a matter of safety.
May 4, 2015 at 10:32 pm
Anonymous
What a lying hypocrite you are.
May 13, 2015 at 8:07 pm
seph haven
What about all the women that enjoy passionate forceful sex? Are u saying they shouldn’t be able to live out their fantasies. Yes some women do actually enjoy being forcefully submitted into sex and to add consent removes all thrill of the fantasy i know from personal experience as ive dated a women like this that would purposely refuse sex in attempt to get me to rape her(didnt last long)
Women have far more rights them men and its casuing society as a hole to get worse and worse….. do to the unfair justice system u have normal men unfairly imprision after being the victim of an assault by a women, caged with actual animal’s for extended periods of time and wonder why the rates of men acting like animals is rising…… may it just be that u are forcing normal men to become bad just so they can survive imprisonment then blame them when they loose thier humanity…… you cant teach humanity to anyone, u can only preserve it.
theres no wage gap, sexual misconduct goes both ways, women can force men into slavery and parenthood, men are jailed for defending thier attacker, women can be worsr mothers in world and still takes a men a furtune and years to be to be a father in his kids lives.
I think the best thing for u is to move to Afghanistan, see what its like to actually be oppressed.
March 10, 2016 at 11:36 pm
Marek
What a relief that new ideas of robotics, including sex-robots are just under construction. In some 30 years men will be offered a functional choice and able to use machines instead of going into relations with women. The same refers to women, of course. Both sexes will be happy.
I like your answer really. And you’re right – it’s a matter of safety. The small problem of yours and similar chimeras of mind is the world you have created is artificial like lighthouse environment and could’t survive neither a major natural disaster nor a nuclear winter.
There exists also a false assumption as men as a sex are responsible for the evil of our world. To some degree it could be true but if you are right then almost no woman would be sentenced for the worst crime. Proportion men to women sentenced are 1:9. Strangely enough, the same proportion we get when listing artists or scientists, also we have roughly the same in mentally disabled persons. No one, however, takes special care of the unlucky idiots ; cause it’s the percentage of geniuses what matters. So yes the men have a flaw, but not, it could’t be removed.
And yet one matter: remember that white man apologizes for nothing.
May 26, 2014 at 5:03 am
John
please, this blog is steeped in a GIANT misunderstanding. feminism does not equal misandry. they are separate entities. the two can sometimes coincide, but in a small, small percentage of feminists. the difference between feminism and “men’s rights activism” is that one group is actively harming people. hint: it’s not feminism. misogyny kills.
May 26, 2014 at 5:05 am
Walter
in the wake of the Elliot Rodger incident, CAN YOU ALL SHUT UP? MISOGYNY IS TAKEN TOO FAR NEARLY EVERY DAY. feminism aims for equal pay and rights. not death. #yesallwomen
February 22, 2016 at 5:06 pm
Anonymous
Elliot Rodger had more male victims than he did female. Say again about misogyny? If it is taken too far every day as you said, misandry is taken even further. When will you speak out against that?
May 26, 2014 at 6:39 pm
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October 25, 2014 at 11:22 pm
Anonymous
I don’t understand many parts of the logic of this post . I’m sorry but if someone told you to get over your general anger you had for an entire gender , than it’s a valid point to make. You don’t get feminism at all and a lot of feminists wouldn’t tell you to act like a man . I understand it’s frustrating for someone to downplay your issues and think men’s issues aren’t as bad as women’s . I don’t like MRAs. They may make some of the same valid points masclunists make but go about them in the wrong way and others are bullshit . Also how is someone’s calling you misgynostic nessecarily man shaming
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November 29, 2014 at 5:49 pm
Guest
Feminism creates benefits for women, is not oppressive of women, and acknowledges women’s experiences.
I think the aspect of your post which should concern us all is the category “Threat of Endangerment”. If anyone states: “I feel scared”, it needs to be taken seriously.
May 11, 2015 at 2:04 pm
Rohan Roger David Zener
Really? Are you sure it’s never just a Code Orange reflex? Plus, he said “CHARGE of Endangerment”; not “threat”.
Just concede defeat, gynocentrist; for Feminism is just your ideology’s last legs and women will NEVER be gods among men. They are to just get used to being treated as “just humans”.
May 13, 2015 at 7:51 pm
seph haven
Just because some says they feel threated does not mean they are, if a schizophrenic says they are scared aliens are coming should be all take them seriously….. hell no…… if u say your under threat but it cannot be proved by logical interpretation then the accusation falls short of substance and should be immediately called on for what it is, playing a victim card, plain and simple.
If a man says he feels threated he must back it up with substantial evidence or deemed a lier or a cry baby and will no longer be taken seriously about accusations of threats , women should have to prove it the same or face shame at the hands of their peers.
January 5, 2015 at 10:05 am
mangoyacho
But what you are discussing is not what feminism is about. There should be a clear distinction between proper feminism and any other action that people just label as feminism. Feminists thought is thought that does not put down other or label other people. Proper feminism respects all humanity but stands its ground against subjugation of other humans, the majority who just happen to be women and LGTB people. Feminism explores the power dynamics that come into play in social relations and that includes theories of masculinity.
April 7, 2015 at 5:36 pm
Anon S
I think this is one of my favorite shaming tactics. It’s obvious BS because feminists have never done one thing intentionally to help men, despite men being the primary victims of violence, murder, loneliness, social isolation, mental issues, prostate cancer, work place death, and have lifespans several years shorter than their female counterparts.
Feminists don’t respect humanity and they certainly love putting down the male sex.
That’s why for men it’s best just to MGTOW. If feminism was really about equality in that case, they’d be working overtime to help men out. But instead we see them just expose themselves with even more shaming language and none of the high ideals they make up for themselves when they have a stupid audience or opponents to argue with and manipulate.
May 13, 2015 at 7:41 pm
seph haven
exept when its a man whos being wronged otherwise feminist would be fighting the feminazi as the tables have already shifted to favoring women even when they are the perpetrators.
July 5, 2015 at 5:54 am
Anonymous
You seem to have a point there.
January 17, 2015 at 6:15 pm
Christian women and the rationalization of attraction | Reflections on Christianity and the manosphere
[…] https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/ […]
January 29, 2015 at 8:54 pm
Is the Pagan Federation a Feminist Enclave? | Aleq Grai's Rants.
[…] logical fallacies lacing gish gallop after tirade of abuse and male shaming techniques <Link> – the end game is always the […]
February 8, 2015 at 3:13 am
Feminist Bingo Card | Patriactionary
[…] Related. […]
February 15, 2015 at 1:33 am
Why are there no conservative comedians? | Atavisionary
[…] have analyzed this problem more broadly and the main reason is that leftists effectively engage in shaming tactics, mainly through the use of ad hominem. Rather than address a given topic in good faith, they […]
February 21, 2015 at 7:27 pm
The PUA cheese touch strikes again
[…] The men’s rights movement is no stranger to the tactics feminists try to use to silence viewpoints they oppose. Those tactics have been written about for years, well before the movement was as large as it is today, and well before it ever received media attention. If you’re not familiar with them, read Exposing Feminism’s post “The catalog of anti-male shaming tactics.” […]
February 21, 2015 at 8:28 pm
Baril legaul
Here one magic answer for all attacks = That’s irrelevant, you are losing your self-control and thus your argument as well..
March 5, 2015 at 9:29 pm
Joxua Luxor
join my group please. We are going to take MGTOW in a different and positive direction.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/108164841183463557844
March 8, 2015 at 7:51 am
Shreya
Why is “you’re ugly” code tan? Not fair. Dark is beautiful too
March 12, 2015 at 10:50 am
They Still Want You To Man Up and Marry Those Sluts. | The Society of Phineas
[…] course, they start right out with the typical Peter-Pan charge, that part of growing up involves mindlessly walking into a decision simply because others tell […]
April 2, 2015 at 3:39 pm
Destruction of morals and the commodification of romantic love | Reflections on Christianity and the manosphere
[…] these women start to age and see that they cannot get men to commit to them with sex they start to freak out and shame men manifesting by all sorts of […]
April 29, 2015 at 4:46 am
Daniel Drummond
@ Mangoyacho – What is under discussion is not what Feminism is about… but it is what Feminism has become. Once the Feminazi faction (i.e Lesbians) assumed control of the Feminist steering wheel, the spiral downward was set in motion. The same can be said for many other organizations that represent respective groups – NAACP, both Political Parties, F.O.P., Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts of America, YM&WCA’s, Church Organizations, etc. Once the Humanist (and all variants that comprise it) infiltrate and dominate the organizations, they cease to be the well meaning vehicles of positivity they were usually planned to be, and become canker worms of people with all types of nefarious agendas to “repurpose” and re-fashion the world into one where thought is replaced by feelings and chaos becomes the chorus of the collective as it implodes.
April 29, 2015 at 9:10 pm
New Hashtag Idea: #ICBINTO (I can't believe it's not The Onion) - The Single Dude's Guide to Life & Travel™
[…] blossoms that dream this shit up want nothing more than to receive negative attention because it allows them to support their twisted world views via dismissal of valid critics as racists, homop…. They thrive on negative attention, they bask in […]
May 11, 2015 at 2:01 pm
Rohan Roger David Zener
Funny. They still use the Pink Whip on me even though i’m immune to it. Ah, it tickles my humours in full.
May 12, 2015 at 5:56 pm
MGTOW and fatherhood
[…] the approval or validation of any woman is contemptible. Strip them of their power to shame you – being insulted by a woman is a mark of efficacy and helps liberate all men from […]
May 13, 2015 at 7:38 pm
seph haven
@mike i dont Completely agree with u but truth of the matter is islam is at war with the rest of the world and have been since mohammond lived.
They have set up all aspects of their society to conquer all, whether be the abilty to produce more children and win in a numbers war or that non muslims may not be treated as equals or that they. Protect thier less logical parnters from brainwashing and keep them doing what works for thier society’s Benifit.
We are at war with people who want nothingless then everyone to convert to islam or live as slaves….. do u get it?
Feminism is a cancer that is weaking western society while islam grows more and more powerful.
If feminist cared anything about are society’s wellbeing they would not be sabotaging it.
The only people to benifit from feminism are the overly rich who instituted it(they are insulated by its negative effects by wealth) , so they could double the workforce, tax all of the population(not just 50%), keep the income tax( was illegal before great depression) lower risk of new families coming to power by lowering numbers of familys with abilty to rise out of poverty(took the rothchilds an entire family working together “men and women”) along with them knowing for a very long time the best time to make money is war time so lets cause an eternally internal never ending war between the genders of poor and middle-class citizen’s.
I personally feel feminism has not succeeded in its mission and any arguement that it has is a pipe dream.
Lets go over the so called victories.
Independence…… well any biologist can tell u that every living creature is dependant on one thing or another. So independence is physically impossible. So maybe you ment independence from men and again unless u choose to never reproduce you will always need a mans sperm to fertlilate an egg. So maybe you ment independence from a mans money. Well that just has not happened, feminism has only changed the responsibility of one man that chooses his women to support. Now all men must support all women threw a direct tax on labour(income tax) along with alimony and child support even when man has no issues caring for child 50% or more of time.
Maybe u won on wage gap, idk about u but if i walk into mcdonalds and wage is minimum wage everyone man and women make minimum wage, the same rate of pay. The only way someone could make more then any other person is by working more hours(which men generally do as we have evolved to work hard, like slave hard) its always been like that. A company advertises for a position Stating, wage anyone who gets it makes the same amount Unless they dont work as hard which is as fair as it will ever get.you have succeeded at getting women into jobs they are unqualified for through affirmative action.(great now we have people doing jobs they cant even complete effectively”
Maybe you won on sexual freedom if u consider mass prostitution without compensation sexual freedom, then i guess u won on mass prostitution without compensation. Along increasing stds like crazy Especially among women between 14-25.
So maybe you lowered the rape rates, think not, you have told women to attract as many sex crazed men as possbile and never do anything to prevent attack in fact to everything possible to promote it. There will always be rapest, murders and crazy people out there, nothing u ever do will change that. These are people that no matter how much society tried to make them a normal productive citizen, it failed and we will always have them. If anything its thier mothers faults for not doing thier job properly( yes raising kids is a womens job as men are now considered as sperm donor’s and a pay check) mabye thats why rape rates have gone up instead of down. Can you teach someone whos lost an arm to just have it back, hell no and u cant teach someone to gain thier humanity back, once its gone its gone.
The only thing u have succeeded in is destroying the minds of beautiful amazing women, unfairly imprisonment of men whos only crime is defending themselves from an attacker, government instituded slavery and theft.
The only things you have succeeded are basically violations against basic human right, not something to be proud of.
I bet ill get a bunch feminazis causing a fit over this but tyranny always has issues answering for their crimes.
my mother taught me, to each there own and my only wish is that feminism and all its supporters should do exactly what they keep saying they should do is all of them move to an island and make thier own society cause ares has serious issues like muslims and their jihad’s or the rich controlling financial markets or industry monopoles that disadvantage the consumer, iran Nd north korea with nukes, isis terrorist attacks, government sanctioned terrorism……. the list goes on and every second someone wastes thier time for feminism, its another wasted opportunity to do any real substantial good in this world. Its just a distraction from real world issues. Issues that of we werent wasting time with feminazis we might actually be able to make some progress on.
And mike reason they call u ugly is cause they have nothing better to throw at you. Youll never see a feminists Win in logical debates and its why they resort to throwing poop like an underevolved chimp. There not here to debate whats fair and just, they only care about dragging everything around them down so they can build a new paradise free of men.
I have 2 daughters, a smoking hot 20 year old wife, a house, 3 cars, money put away, very fit and attractive, well endowed, great sense of humor and live everyday ready to help those in need….. i have everything i could ever want in my life and its only possible because my wife has her own brains and never got caught up in the feminist crap , which is why i give everything to my family i have cause thats what a man does when hes got a parnter in life at his side.
We are a team and its the best feeling anyone could ever ask for so as my daughter’s grow up the last thing ill tell them is that they dont need a man, on the contrary ill enforce unity and teamwork not solence in a void of nothingness, just take time for the right man to come along cause if u get caught up with a boy your doomed…
Im 28 my wife is 20 met when she was 17 which is not against the law in canada
May 23, 2015 at 9:05 pm
You are not open-minded | Atavisionary
[…] faced with some opposition from myself and a few others, he eventually resorted to a common leftist shaming tactic which I am sure most of us are familiar with. He had no good arguments with which to defend his […]
June 15, 2015 at 10:56 am
Keyboard Warrior 101 (Part One) | Red Pill Nation
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August 28, 2015 at 3:42 pm
Shallowness is false humility | Christianity and the manosphere
[…] the charge of shallowness is a feminist shaming tactic specifically the Charge of Puerility (Code Green) – The Peter Pan […]
September 23, 2015 at 5:36 pm
Jamie
In reading the article and the comments I see that virtually none of the suggested comebacks to the more reasonable criticism actually addressed that criticism. What I am most curious about in people who obsess about gender, is their children. If you would die to protect your child of the opposite gender, presumably because you love them, this seems to be a contradiction. At what point does a child become the heartless moron, the supposed majority of that gender are? After puberty do you stop loving them, or do you defend them as the snowflake you gender obsessed people believe does not actually exist in the opposite
sex? I’m not going to try to convince you that you are both wasting your time and wrong about the opposite sex, because it will not happen. You use logic in the places it fits with your position and emotion where it doesn’t and accuse your opposition of doing the same regardless of the content of their statement. I am intentionally not addressing the female or male side of people who have issues with the opposite sex, just like I am intentionally not revealing my own gender because I am genuinely interested in how you get around the sex of your children. So just assume I’m the sex you don’t hate. I’m sure you have some illogical way you have convinced yourself that love for your opposite sexed children is not incompatible with your general dislike of that sex. I would like to know what it is, again, not to refute it, but out of genuine curiousity.
September 26, 2015 at 8:28 pm
The Spearhead: The Misandry Bubble is Similar to other Economic Bubbles » Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology
[…] In addition to the shaming language to get the husband to buy the house, there is also a great deal of misandry in this video. This is a case of the housing bubble and the misandry bubble overlapping. The husband was right to be skeptical. This commercial aired in 2006. If the couple was really worried about schools, they could have waited two years (when their oldest was starting kindergarten) and saved a boatload of money. Even better they could have rented waiting out the housing bubble in the location with the schools they wanted. However, it was more important to make the husband fall in line despite the fact that he was originally right. With the misandry bubble, shaming language is nothing new as we have the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics. […]
September 30, 2015 at 6:34 pm
Anonymous
What I took from this article is the same thing I take from 99% of all MRA articles and comments. “Anyone who disagrees with me or questions my logic or makes any attempt to provide information I don’t agree with is shaming me.” It seems so many in the men’s rights movement set up this almost fascist, quasi-religious structure for their beliefs wherein they literally cannot be questioned – anyone who does is a heretic, unquestionably wrong, unquestionably worthy of nothing but condemnation. A person secure in the rightness of their beliefs, really secure, can discuss them openly, can provide *factual* evidence to back up their beliefs, or – if their beliefs are not based on hard evidence – has the intelligence to realize they cannot speak with scientific authority about things that are faith or opinion based.
Anyone who has a differing opinion in any way in any MRA forum, including the men they seem so desperate to “save,” is automatically classified as an enemy and dismissed with an entire host of shaming/disqualifying/rebuttal techniques that are equally as ignorant as the ones listed in the article. The second a men’s right activist says anything intelligent and actually egalitarian, they follow it up with something blatantly bigoted. The constant quoting of articles by other men’s rights activists, extreme conservative sources, etc automatically discredits any argument you make. “I’m right because other people who think like me say so.” You’ve got to be kidding me. Any hard factual or statistical evidence is dismissed or mansplained away. I see opinions quoted as facts over and over. Absurd things like “women run the media.” A thing easily disproved with simple numbers.
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jul/22/gender-bias-film-industry-75-percent-male
This article references studies with hard evidence, real numbers. Not assumptions and opinions. Where are the equivalent of this on any MRA forums?? I never see links to legitimate research. Just other people restating the same concepts in a more educated way, being quoted as “experts.” Research makes you an expert. Being respected and reviewed by peers who are able to duplicate your findings makes you an expert.
So often MRAs just seem like hate groups masquerading in the guise of “social justice,” a thing they blatantly accuse all feminists of being guilty of. Feminism spans such a variety of beliefs it is impossible to even make broad statements about those who ascribe to it in any sort of generalizing way. Yet after reading tons of men’s rights stuff, to genuinely give it a shot and see if there is any validity to the claims MRAs are making, I find for every real point made there are then 1000 non-points/opinions/blatant statements of biogtry thrown in.
It’s a joke. The same one told over and over with different wording, with limited to not variation. Angry people who can’t understand why an entire gender doesn’t mold itself simply to the purpose of pleasing them, angry people who can’t separate their own patterns of behavior (pursuing women who won’t be interested in them, pursuing the same type of relationships over and over, holding on to every single trauma every done by women, taking every “rejecetion” as some insanely person action, letting people manipulate you then taking no blame for allowing it to happen – which by the way is something MRAs love to throw at abused women). The punch line is that, in mocking feminism and women, MRAs prove themselves to be everything extremist “femi-nazis” say about men. They do nothing to promote their legitimate points (things like child custody, divorce, etc) and everything to devalue their own opinions by refusing to stick to logical, non-emotional based arguments (again, a thing MRAs level against feminists and women).
You do yourself no favors with these articles. You just make yourself look like everything these “shaming” techniques say you are. Particularly bitter and angry. But mostly I’d just say ignorant. Ignorant to the world being nuanced, having shades of gray, of people not being able to conveniently be lumped into little bubbles of behaviors and most ignorant of the fact that you expect others to conform/live up to standards you WOULD NEVER PUT ON YOURSELF.
October 1, 2015 at 5:29 am
Sabretruthtiger
Ironic, considering the new medical drama ‘Code Black’ is overtly feminist and anti-male.
October 5, 2015 at 9:59 am
saintluger
misogyny = call of The Great Whore minded “modern woman” when her manipulations don’t get her what she wants. seriously, IF… women in general got the fuck to work instead of CONNING AND SCHEMING AND ALL THE REST OF THE CHILD MINDED LIFE LONG THINGS THEY DO, then they would be just fine. You’re dealing with babies guys… learn to deal with it and them accordingly. And mommy was the failure, she raised the kids, soo… point the finger in the mirrors ya dumb cunts. ” )
October 24, 2015 at 12:43 am
Keyboard Warrior (Part Seven) | Red Pill Nation
[…] https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/ […]
October 30, 2015 at 2:16 pm
Keyboard Warrior (Part 8) | Red Pill Nation
[…] https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/ […]
December 2, 2015 at 2:03 am
limekill
[…] https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/ […]
December 7, 2015 at 11:23 pm
Kit Sirius
There is a kind of attack I have experienced many times that may be worth consideration for inclusion in this list.
I am not very well written but I’ll try to explain the gist of this type of attack.
Basically it occurs whenever I have attempted to bring up ANY of my own experiences of violence and resulting trauma at the hands of women. It is ALWAYS met with some variation of “but surely you can admit that your case is extremely rare and doesn’t happen to most men” and that’s if it is even acknowledged at all and I’m not accused of outright lying or just called a “wimp” or a “pussy” or any other demeaning label of weakness they can grab at.
January 28, 2016 at 6:33 am
Anonymous
You do realize that the very nature of feminism requires men and actually looks out for men’s rights and the pressures put on them as well. Whoever you’re hearing these from isn’t a true feminist and is most likely extreme. You’re entire article is based on faulty premises of what feminism is. We need you men too.
February 16, 2016 at 8:17 am
When The Reformers Are Feminist, Abandon All Hope | The Society of Phineas
[…] for the rest, note all the typical feminist shaming tactics, rather than directly addressing any of the points involved. Gentlemen, you have just seen what […]
February 18, 2016 at 3:02 pm
Feminism is the promotion and glorification of rebellion | Christianity and the manosphere
[…] Shaming tactics […]
February 22, 2016 at 5:03 pm
Anonymous
Oh, we “get feminism” just fine, thank you! At its core it has always been about destroying the strong family unit by attacking and emasculating the man. Equality? I laugh harder than anything at that attempt at justification!
“A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” That kind of equality? Because fish and bicycles can not possibly in any way, shape or form compliment each other. Quite the opposite is true of men and women, but your feminism will hear nothing of it. Feminism is too busy making women equal to the worst examples of men rather than the best, and that is NOT by accident!
Why, if it is so for “equality,” does feminism seek to grant even more reproductive rights to women while stripping men of theirs? You struggle so hard to justify your precious movement, but I grew up under its shadow, hated for being male and shamed for my natural heterosexual desires. I have learned to overcome that by and large, but not with any help from feminists!
May 11, 2016 at 2:18 am
Jeff
This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life. You people are a joke. Good luck with life.
May 24, 2016 at 7:50 am
94niners
Anyone who has to limit opposing speech is nothing but pure sh*t and cancer to the human race. If you can’t handle an opposing view or someone calling you out on your beliefs it’s because you are a worthless human being who is stuck in childhood. This applies all across the spectrum, from MRAs to SJWs to BLMs to KKKs. All of you who cannot deal with opposing speech are absolutely worthless and completely retarded.
July 31, 2016 at 5:13 pm
Grimbone
Wow, this is super fucking pathetic. Enjoy your lives of sadness, fuckos.
August 15, 2016 at 5:31 am
-_-
Wow all of this I have heard before this is amazing
September 20, 2016 at 1:14 am
TRP 14 – The Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics | Anodyne Mendacity
[…] Original at: https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/ […]
September 22, 2016 at 8:21 pm
Hecrackart
Whats funny is that Feminists would disagree with any of these things being said to any human, let alone men. this is an assumption that you are talking to a feminist when receiving these comments, or “charges,” feminism is about equality not female supremacy or man-hating. Not to say that there aren’t extremist females out there that believe in man-shaming/man-hating, but they are not accepted by the broader feminist community.
November 2, 2016 at 7:29 pm
Code Yellow – The Practical Nihilist
[…] In MGTOW circles it’s such a common thing to hear that it’s right the top of the list of anti-male shaming tactics. This (along with most of the other shaming tactics on that list) is also thrown at those […]
February 3, 2017 at 12:54 pm
Jake
Greer, what privilege? I’ve never been privilleged.